Also the 8800XT will also have 16GB of VRAM which is quite unacceptable for 20GB and up 7900(x) owners. Thanks AMD.

Ojref said:

Also the 8800XT will also have 16GB of VRAM which is quite unacceptable for 20GB and up 7900(x) owners. Thanks AMD.

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For perspective
7900xt has GDDR6 at Memory Clock
2500 MHz
20 Gbps effective
7800xt has GDDR6 at
Memory Clock
2438 MHz
19.5 Gbps effective
8800xt rumored vram GDDR6
Memory Clock
2438 MHz
19.5 Gbps effective

as per Techpowerup's place holder
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-8800-xt.c4229

I fully expect the 5080 to be close to $1000. Gone are the days of a reasonably priced second-tier graphics card. With AI demand for chips through the ceiling nVidia are really not that bothered about selling large quantities.

godrilla said:

For perspective
7900xt has GDDR6 at Memory Clock
2500 MHz
20 Gbps effective
7800xt has GDDR6 at
Memory Clock
2438 MHz
19.5 Gbps effective
8800xt rumored vram GDDR6
Memory Clock
2438 MHz
19.5 Gbps effective

as per Techpowerup's place holder
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-8800-xt.c4229

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Are you an AI?

Nvidia article without mentioning AI a trillion times? I'm impressed. As for the GPU, I barely have need for the one that I currently use.

OortCloud said:

I fully expect the 5080 to be close to $1000. Gone are the days of a reasonably priced second-tier graphics card. With AI demand for chips through the ceiling nVidia are really not that bothered about selling large quantities.

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The high end has always been closer to $1000. The 8800gtx was $950 adjusted for inflation. The ultra adjusted was $1100.

The $500 flagship era was a product of the Great Financial Crisis. Mix that with hyperinflation from injecting over $6 TRILLION into the economy, tariffs, and Nvidias monopoly on the high end, and you can kiss those $500 gtx 580s goodbye.

ScottSoapbox said:

Just want a reasonably priced card with 16 GB VRAM and a decent performance boost on my 3080...

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3080? I'll finally be replacing my 1080 , really hoping for 24gb at minimum.

With prices of GPUs I gave up on gaming. A bike cost like a GPU. Screw that.

yRaz said:

Are you an AI?

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nope an organic anomaly lol .

I know it’s speculation but I would not be surprised if Nvidia had another 4080 12/16 GB Edition moment…

Expect 5080 to be gimped to get under the China sanctions and $999, 5090 being $1999.

I'll be sticking to my 4090 for another few years, Except for Path Tracing in Cyberpunk, it's pretty much never the bottleneck.

Am I reading that right though? RTX 5000 series DisplayPort 2.1a @ UHBR20? They actually going to the full speed of DisplayPort straight away and not AMD/Intel style of barely half speed? Maybe that's why they waited an extra generation.

AlexIL said:

With prices of GPUs I gave up on gaming. A bike cost like a GPU. Screw that.

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A lot of games have extreme preset solely to strain the most powerful GPUs.
It is not like you must have a 1k GPU to play anything.
There will always be those cards for 1%. Most people do not need them
unless they decide they need the fastest GPUs available.

With the right price and right specs, 5070 class gpu will be worth the wait..
its all that I need to play my games..
dont need those uber class pricey gpus..

Burty117 said:

I'll be sticking to my 4090 for another few years, Except for Path Tracing in Cyberpunk, it's pretty much never the bottleneck.

Am I reading that right though? RTX 5000 series DisplayPort 2.1a @ UHBR20? They actually going to the full speed of DisplayPort straight away and not AMD/Intel style of barely half speed? Maybe that's why they waited an extra generation.

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That half speed stuff should not exists. Companies like AMD that say 2.1 but then you find out after hours of searching that it's not UHBR20, lose my support. Why even put that on your card? I was close to getting a 7900 XTX but then find out it's fake DP2.1. I'm getting a 5080 instead.

Now, it's not such a big deal that the initial wave of 32" OLED monitors did not come with a DP2.1. I'm guessing the 2025 versions will get the DP2.1 update.

BabaYaga said:

That half speed stuff should not exists. Companies like AMD that say 2.1 but then you find out after hours of searching that it's not UHBR20, lose my support. Why even put that on your card? I was close to getting a 7900 XTX but then find out it's fake DP2.1. I'm getting a 5080 instead.

Now, it's not such a big deal that the initial wave of 32" OLED monitors did not come with a DP2.1. I'm guessing the 2025 versions will get the DP2.1 update.

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So far this is the only dp2.1 oled on the market available for purchase.
If there is nothing in
the pipeline in launching around Blackwell launch then these will probably sell out instantly.

Ojref said:

Also the 8800XT will also have 16GB of VRAM which is quite unacceptable for 20GB and up 7900(x) owners. Thanks AMD.

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That card isn't a replacement for what you are using.... I'm a 7900 XTX user.

Your next upgrade is RDNA 5.

AlexIL said:

With prices of GPUs I gave up on gaming. A bike cost like a GPU. Screw that.

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A bike is actually cheaper here... much cheaper.

*While AMD's Radeon RX 7000 GPUs already include DP 2.1, the RTX 4000 series stuck with 1.4a.

True, but since AMD used UHBR13.5 it is not really worth anything. UHBR 10 and 13.5 is meh.

Nvidia waited because UHBR20 / Full 80 Gbps is needed for DP 2.1 to make sense, or you will be forced to use DSC anyway.

RTX 5000 having DP2.1a is great news, now we will see alot more monitors with DP 2.1.

16GB is plenty for me

I can't wait to buy a 5080

Mr Majestyk said:

AMD 8800XT will fill that role IMO. Faster than 7900XT in raster, much faster in RTing, and uses less power. Will be under $600.

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Ojref said:

Also the 8800XT will also have 16GB of VRAM which is quite unacceptable for 20GB and up 7900(x) owners. Thanks AMD.

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Probably not enough of an absolute slayer of my 7900XTX to be worth the buy and apply then.
16Gb is the lowest I'll go for 3440x1440 (my main and preferred res) if not outright 4K that the 7900XTX can handle some. There is something to be said, probably, for how 16Gb on the 8800XT will go further than the 6800XT/7800XT... other board assets aso.

Yeah, I'll keep the 24Gb even if somewhat overkill (20Gb would do) As for being better in RT... well I hope enough in that (and FSR?) to be a draw going forward/the gen after with a return to high end. At present I'm merely aware of RT, have tried it (with Nvidia and AMD) but don't miss it if I don't use it. Ditto FSR, only absolutely needed to use it once (with the old 6800XT and the indifferently optimised Starfield) but if I can get along without, fine.

But I'll probably stick with the 7900XTX until then... not broke, don't need fixing. What I do need more in the short-mid term is a new CPU to replace the 5800X that's kept up well at high res but is starting to draw down now. Unfortunately given the 5800X3D is both inconsistent and still pricey that also means a whole new mobo and RAM so I'll see how the 9800X3D turns out and if not that big see about later 7800X3D prices.
Honestly though, as long as I can make out solid sp fps across the varied range of games I play (AAA's/indies, some a decade old/some new, some that'll push the above specs, some that can max out on a Steam Deck) I can wait a while.

CMP01 said:

Probably not enough of an absolute slayer of my 7900XTX to be worth the buy and apply then.
16Gb is the lowest I'll go for 3440x1440 (my main and preferred res) if not outright 4K that the 7900XTX can handle some. There is something to be said, probably, for how 16Gb on the 8800XT will go further than the 6800XT/7800XT... other board assets aso.

Yeah, I'll keep the 24Gb even if somewhat overkill (20Gb would do) As for being better in RT... well I hope enough in that (and FSR?) to be a draw going forward/the gen after with a return to high end. At present I'm merely aware of RT, have tried it (with Nvidia and AMD) but don't miss it if I don't use it. Ditto FSR, only absolutely needed to use it once (with the old 6800XT and the indifferently optimised Starfield) but if I can get along without, fine.

But I'll probably stick with the 7900XTX until then... not broke, don't need fixing. What I do need more in the short-mid term is a new CPU to replace the 5800X that's kept up well at high res but is starting to draw down now. Unfortunately given the 5800X3D is both inconsistent and still pricey that also means a whole new mobo and RAM so I'll see how the 9800X3D turns out and if not that big see about later 7800X3D prices.
Honestly though, as long as I can make out solid sp fps across the varied range of games I play (AAA's/indies, some a decade old/some new, some that'll push the above specs, some that can max out on a Steam Deck) I can wait a while.

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7900XTX is still a fine card and RDNA4 won't have anything for you.

Starfield had FSR2 enabled as default but was CPU limited. Showing how clueless devs are, because upscaling don't improve fps in a CPU bound scenario.

9800X3D is going to be a slam hit for gamers and will fix 7800X3D's biggest problem, low clockspeeds.

Expect 10-15% improved gaming performance and more like 15-20% in applications due to Zen 5 improvements here.

9800X3D replaces 7800X3D completely. 7800X3D goes EOL and out of stock in many countries by now.