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The big picture: Intel's Core Ultra 200 CPU series recently broke cover with the introduction of the Lunar Lake 200V models for light laptops. While leaks have built a reasonably clear picture of the desktop 200K variants, which Chipzilla expects to unveil soon, the high-performance mobile parts remain obscure. A new post from a renowned tipster indicates they may resemble their desktop counterparts with slightly lower clocks.

Vetted leaker Jaykihn has shared the clock speeds and core counts of six previously unknown Intel Arrow Lake HX CPUs. The high-end laptop processors generally align with the previously leaked Arrow Lake S lineup with an additional chip at the bottom end of the stack.

Leading the pack is the Core Ultra 9 285HX. Its 24 cores (eight performance and 16 efficiency) and 5.5GHz boost clock put it only 200MHz behind its desktop counterpart. That CPU, the 5.7GHz 285K, appeared in a UK retailer listing with four other chips earlier this month.

The second laptop processor, the Ultra 7 275HX, features the same number of cores with a 5.4GHz boost – meanwhile, the Ultra 7 265HX features 20 cores (8+12). At 5.3GHz, it is only 200MHz slower than its desktop K and KF counterparts, while the Ultra 5 255HX boasts an identical core count at 5.2GHz.

Finally, the two lowest-ranked chips each pack 14 cores at 5.1GHz. The Ultra 5 245HX aligns with the desktop variants, but the 235HX has no known equivalent. It might be the first Core Ultra 3 200 series CPU.

All of the leaked HX processors feature Xe2 Battlemage integrated graphics. The 255HX and higher include 64 EU cores. The flagship 285HX clocks its graphics at 2GHz, while the 235HX on the opposite end of the lineup is limited to 1.8GHz. The iGPUs in-between all operate at 1.9GHz.

There is still no sign of the rumored "Arrow Lake Halo," which is said to be Intel's response to the enhanced iGPU featured in AMD's Strix Halo chipset. Arrow Lake Halo reportedly includes 14 cores and 320 EUs.

The release window for Arrow Lake HX remains fuzzy, but it will likely come after the Arrow Lake S Core Ultra 200K/KF lineup, which Intel might reveal on October 10. Panther Lake, also known as Intel Core 300, is expected to follow in the latter half of next year.

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Mobile Arrow Lake leak reveals Core Ultra 9 285HX with 24 cores and 5.5GHz boost clock

 
"24 cores and 5.5GHz boost clock"

Statement coming from "intel" so I 'd mitigate that to, uh, 8 physical cores, 4 hyperthreaded cores and 12 low power cores used for reading newspaper and maybe even playing pacman, or equivalent.

Only a matter of time b4 the cpu package fails too.

Would I buy an intel CPU after 30+ years of intel screwing enthusiasts? If you think I would, I guess you think Project Blue Book was meant to be genuine too from the get-go.
 
There you have it. Arrow lake will be slower than Raptor Lake, no chance against even Zen5 without 3D V-cache.
 
Hopefully the power profile is the exciting part of this launch as they are using TSMC not their own inefficient FInFet.
 
Whoever has the better battery life will probably win my money in 2025 when I upgrade my current 12700H + 3070 laptop.
 
HardReset said:
There you have it. Arrow lake will be slower than Raptor Lake, no chance against even Zen5 without 3D V-cache.
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Meanwhile Lunar Lake beats both AMD and Qualcomm on mobile, both in performance and battery life. TSMC 3N is looking real good. Sadly AMD cheaped out.

Arrow Lake will easily beat Zen 5 with superior overall performance. Zen 5 has been a massive failure so far. Lets hope 9000X3D can save this mess.

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Zen 5 sales have not gone well and AMD is struggling to sell Ryzen 9000 CPUs. Let's analyze the flow-on effects this is having across the rest...
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Felusy said:
Meanwhile Lunar Lake beats both AMD and Qualcomm on mobile, both in performance and battery life. TSMC 3N is looking real good. Sadly AMD cheaped out.

Arrow Lake will easily beat Zen 5 with superior overall performance. Zen 5 has been a massive failure so far. Lets hope 9000X3D can save this mess.
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Nvidia also "cheaped out" TSMC 3N, using N4P instead for Blackwell🤦‍♂️"(y) (Y)"

Arrow Lake will have lower clock speeds because Intel wants it to actually work, not rot and broke down. Because of that, Arrow Lake will be around same performance as Raptor Lake so Zen5 3D will be much faster.
 
HardReset said:
Nvidia also "cheaped out" TSMC 3N, using N4P instead for Blackwell🤦‍♂️"(y) (Y)"

Arrow Lake will have lower clock speeds because Intel wants it to actually work, not rot and broke down. Because of that, Arrow Lake will be around same performance as Raptor Lake so Zen5 3D will be much faster.
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Nvidia could beat AMD in GPUs while using 7nm if they wanted, they will use 3N for the next AI GPU in 2025 and destroy AMD even harder in this market. AMD left high-end GPU market for a reason; Nvidia dominated them.

Arrow Lake beats Raptor Lake in both ST and MT, you know nothing. Removal of HT increases gaming perf and lowers power usage, and still does well in MT.

3D is only good for gaming and nothing else. 7800X3D is what I use. Good gaming chip but outside of gaming, it's slow as dirt. Lets hope AMD can crank the clockspeeds on 9000X3D.

Dual CCD chips also meh for gaming.

Intel 285K is going to deliver way better all-round performance than any AMD chip. You will see in a few weeks.

AMD can't compete using a worse process node. Or yes, on price. AMD will drop price big time soon. Zen 5 is collecting dust even before Arrow Lake is out.
 
Felusy said:
Nvidia could beat AMD in GPUs while using 7nm if they wanted, they will use 3N for the next AI GPU in 2025 and destroy AMD even harder in this market. AMD left high-end GPU market for a reason; Nvidia dominated them.

Arrow Lake beats Raptor Lake in both ST and MT, you know nothing. Removal of HT increases gaming perf and lowers power usage, and still does well in MT.

3D is only good for gaming and nothing else. 7800X3D is what I use. Good gaming chip but outside of gaming, it's slow as dirt. Lets hope AMD can crank the clockspeeds on 9000X3D.

Dual CCD chips also meh for gaming.

Intel 285K is going to deliver way better all-round performance than any AMD chip. You will see in a few weeks.

AMD can't compete using a worse process node. Or yes, on price. AMD will drop price big time soon. Zen 5 is collecting dust even before Arrow Lake is out.
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AMD left high end desktop GPU market just because it's not that profitable. FYI, AMd could have very easily beat Nvidia on current generation because AMD design is jsut little slower than Nvidia while largest chip is around half of Nvidia one.

Arrow Lake have lower ST clock speeds so it probably will not beat on everything. How removal of HT increase MT speeds? Right.

7800X3D is made for gaming, so what else should it be than good gaming chip?

Dual CCD works just fine on gaming unless playing some old trash.

Since you are so sure, I hope you maintain your opinion AFTER launch too.

I doubt AMD have any needs to lower prices but again, I hope you keep your opinion after launch too. I have seen people like you, they are Very loud before launch and when they realised they were completely wrong, they just disappear.
 
HardReset said:
AMD left high end desktop GPU market just because it's not that profitable. FYI, AMd could have very easily beat Nvidia on current generation because AMD design is jsut little slower than Nvidia while largest chip is around half of Nvidia one.

Arrow Lake have lower ST clock speeds so it probably will not beat on everything. How removal of HT increase MT speeds? Right.

7800X3D is made for gaming, so what else should it be than good gaming chip?

Dual CCD works just fine on gaming unless playing some old trash.

Since you are so sure, I hope you maintain your opinion AFTER launch too.

I doubt AMD have any needs to lower prices but again, I hope you keep your opinion after launch too. I have seen people like you, they are Very loud before launch and when they realised they were completely wrong, they just disappear.
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High-end GPUs are not profitable because AMD can't compete and their solutions are mediocre. AMD don't have the money and knowledge to beat Nvidia in any GPU market. Nvidia dominate in gaming, enterprise and ai. AMD has no chance of beating Nvidia at all, the best AMD can hope for, is to gain marketshare. Nvidia R&D budget is 100 times bigger than AMDs = AMD has zero chance of beating Nvidia. AMD is years behind on everything.

Nvidia's grasp of desktop GPU market balloons to 88% — AMD has just 12%, Intel negligible, says JPR

The discrete GPU industry is returning to seasonality.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

This is why AMD don't focus on gaming GPUs. Barely anyone wants them. FSR is meh. RT is bad. Features just suck. I know, because I had a 6800XT.

285K already has higher MT perf than 14900KS and 9950X in leaks. Wins in ST as well.

You are in for a rude awakening when Arrow Lake hits on TSMC 3N.

AMD chases AI, loosing GPU market in the process and now CPU market also looks wonky as well. Zen 5 was a massive failure and Intel gets node advantage.

RDNA4 is the next joke launch from AMD. Low to mid-tier stuff only. Useless really. Meanwhile Nvidia releases 5090 and 5080 shortly, with 5070 and 5060 soon to follow after that. RDNA4 is already DOA.

Lisa Su is in full panic mode. AI is a moneysink, which is why AMD saves money on CPU and gaming GPU market. This is why Zen 5 failed. AMD cheaped out on process to save money too.
 
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