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The big picture: Dynamic pricing is becoming an unavoidable reality, despite its unpopularity among many consumers. This shift is being driven by technologies like electronic shelf labels (ESLs). Retailers argue that these innovations increase efficiency and reduce costs in an industry known for its slim profit margins. However, consumers worry that this could pave the way for even more aggressive dynamic pricing practices. As Walmart begins deploying ESLs in its stores, industry observers will be closely watching how consumers react to this change.

Walmart is leading the charge to replace traditional paper price tags with electronic shelf labels (ESLs) by 2026. The retailer aims to introduce the technology in 2,300 stores, signaling a significant shift that has already taken hold in Europe. With several locations in California already utilizing ESLs, Walmart may be paving the way for a nationwide transformation.

Electronic shelf labels use display technologies, such as e-paper or LCDs to present product information. These labels are connected to a central server wirelessly via radio frequency, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or Zigbee. This connectivity allows for real-time updates to product information, but most importantly, prices.

The adoption of electronic labels offers numerous advantages to stores, as the ability to quickly update prices saves time and labor compared to the manual process of changing paper labels. However, the ease of changing prices has raised concerns about potential price gouging and the facilitation of dynamic pricing strategies, where prices fluctuate based on demand factors such as time of day or weather conditions.

In fact, the technology is tailor-made for dynamic pricing. ESLs allow retailers to adjust prices in real-time based on specific conditions, such as raising prices during peak shopping hours or offering discounts during off-peak times to attract more customers.

Despite this, both Walmart and Kroger, have assured consumers that they do not intend to use electronic labels for dynamic pricing. Instead, they claim the technology will be used to lower costs and reflect sale prices, not to increase prices throughout the day.

They are walking a thin line with consumers, however, as they deploy the technology. Trust can quickly be eroded if consumers feel they are being charged unfairly, particularly if they suspect prices are being manipulated based on their purchasing behavior or personal data. A Capterra survey found that 52% of consumers equate dynamic pricing with price gouging, and only 34% believe it benefits them.

Santiago Gallino, a professor specializing in retail management at the University of Pennsylvania, notes that he hasn't observed signs that retailers plan to use ESLs for surge pricing. "In my conversation with retailers, it's clear that those who are pushing towards this technology are mainly trying to drive efficiency up in the stores and try to reduce costs," Gallino told the Los Angeles Times. "Grocery retailers operate on very thin margins, so every time they find technology that can help them save in labor, they will do that."

Nonetheless, skepticism remains among some policymakers. US Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bob Casey expressed their concerns in a letter to Rodney McMullen, CEO of Kroger, which is also using ESLs in its stores. "These digital price tags may enable Kroger and other grocery chains to transition to 'dynamic pricing,' in which the price of basic household goods could surge based on the time of day, the weather, or other transitory events," they wrote.

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"Despite this, both Walmart and Kroger, have assured consumers that they do not intend to use electronic labels for dynamic pricing. Instead, they claim the technology will be used to lower costs and reflect sale prices, not to increase prices throughout the day."

Yeah, sure, and I have a sweet bridge to sell y'all. States should be banning dynamic pricing in its entirety.
 
Trust can quickly be eroded if consumers feel they are being charged unfairly, particularly if they suspect prices are being manipulated based on their purchasing behavior
Sigh, yet more evidence of the total death of economic understanding in this country. Prices have *always* been set based on purchasing behavior. It's not only normal, but desirable, as it has been repeatedly shown to increase overall utility. Furthermore and statistically speaking, for every price that gets raised as a result of better purchasing data, some other price gets lowered.
 
Sigh, yet more evidence of the total death of economic understanding in this country. Prices have *always* been set based on purchasing behavior. It's not only normal, but desirable, as it has been repeatedly shown to increase overall utility. Furthermore and statistically speaking, for every price that gets raised as a result of better purchasing data, some other price gets lowered.
Right, prices go LOWER, like....ummm.....hang on, I'll find an example eventually.

Never before, in history, have prices been able to update on a per minute basis. A reaction to a surge in demand, yeah, sure that happens. But not immediately. Prices didnt change while you were standing in line. Milk didnt go up 20% due to news of a barn fire while you were in the fruits section. Ece.

We have already seen this "dynamic pricing" in action, and universally, it is used to jack up prices during any sort of demand, to the detriment of the consumer, and the benefit of the corporation's profit margin. WHY, on this green earth, would you BELIEVE them?
 
I go to physical shops only for food or tech services .
 
Right, prices go LOWER, like....ummm.....hang on, I'll find an example eventually.
Visit any "sale" section of any store on the globe and you'll see an example of prices reduced due to consumer purchasing habits. Hello and welcome to planet Earth. We hope you enjoy your stay.

Never before, in history, have prices been able to update on a per minute basis ... Milk didnt go up 20% due to news of a barn fire while you were in the fruits section. Ece.
Umm, the instantaneous reaction of prices to bad news is exactly why a "futures market" originally developed. Historical cases of prices tripling, quadrupling, even quintupling or more within minutes in reaction to news -- even false rumors -- of anything from the sinking of a sailing fleet to civil unrest on the continent abound.'

In practice, what this DOES mean is that prices, instead of changing dramatically -- sometimes by 50% or more -- on a nightly, weekly, or bi-monthly basis when the data finally becomes available -- they'll change by much smaller increments, much more frequently. All in all, a VERY good thing for consumers and producers alike.

We have already seen this "dynamic pricing" in action, and universally, it is used to jack up prices
Prices float to equalize supply and demand. In economic terms, the 'best' price is the one that ensures all product is sold, and no consumer goes without. If prices fail to rise in a shortage situation, some consumers get nothing whatsover.

When that news of a barn fire hits your grocery store, the fact that milk prices surge 25% will keep some people from cleaning out the shelves before you get there to buy your gallon.
 
Visit any "sale" section of any store on the globe and you'll see an example of prices reduced due to consumer purchasing habits. Hello and welcome to planet Earth. We hope you enjoy your stay.


Umm, the instantaneous reaction of prices to bad news is exactly why a "futures market" originally developed. Historical cases of prices tripling, quadrupling, even quintupling or more within minutes in reaction to news -- even false rumors -- of anything from the sinking of a sailing fleet to civil unrest on the continent abound.'

In practice, what this DOES mean is that prices, instead of changing dramatically -- sometimes by 50% or more -- on a nightly, weekly, or bi-monthly basis when the data finally becomes available -- they'll change by much smaller increments, much more frequently. All in all, a VERY good thing for consumers and producers alike.


Prices float to equalize supply and demand. In economic terms, the 'best' price is the one that ensures all product is sold, and no consumer goes without. If prices fail to rise in a shortage situation, some consumers get nothing whatsover.

When that news of a barn fire hits your grocery store, the fact that milk prices surge 25% will keep some people from cleaning out the shelves before you get there to buy your gallon.
You mean those same prices that went up last year to ridiculous new highs? Wow, 10% off of the price that is 50% higher then 6 months ago, what a steal!

The grocery store is NOT a futures market. That 25% price increase is what we call PRICE GOUGING. Constantly updated digital pricing makes price gouging much EASIER, since it will be much harder to track prices in such a fast manner.

IDK what you're spewing about "ensuring customers dont go without". People already cannot afford things, jacking up prices opportunistically does not help anyone from going without. You've bought that corporate line hook and sinker.
 
With cameras and AI, they can track you from the moment you pull into the parking lot. So if you pull up in a new luxury SUV and are well dressed, they can charge you more for the same items than the guy in a banged-up Altima wearing flip flops and a ripped t-shirt. Same thing will happen at drive-thrus.
 
Honestly, I don't know why people would be freaking out about this. This technology is nothing new and Walmart and Korger aren't the first stores to use this. I highly doubt that prices would change in real-time right in front of a customer. If it did, it would be most likely caused by someone hacking the system.

In general, I am fine with this technology. I recall my retail days when a team of co-workers would have to go around the whole store updating price tags and strips. It's a lot of paper.

I don't recall the battery life span of one of this digital price tags. Hopefully the system tells them if one of them are low. It would be a pain having to patrol and make sure they are still working.
 
They need to make sure prices aren't adjusted constantly - any time a price change is made it needs to be visible to the consumer with a date and time stamp that cannot be manually adjusted. Also a price adjustment limit needs to be set so a price can't just instantly fluctuate up or down on a whim just because Bob farted over in aisle 3 and the winds from the Himalayas carried the smell to the Arctic Circle.

There needs to be a clear reason for a price change and a date/time stamp when it happens. This information needs to be visible to the consumer.
 
I would welcome digital pricing on shelves if it could resolve the issue of shelf prices not matching the register. The grocery store I frequent regularly has problems with sale prices not ringing up correctly, and this happens almost every week. It's incredibly frustrating to think you're getting a "buy one, get one free" deal, only to discover at home that the discount didn't apply. I don't have the time, nor should I need to, to double-check every item to ensure it's priced correctly. If this technology can fix that problem, I'm all for it.

However, as others have pointed out, companies often push the boundaries of fairness and legality to squeeze out more profit. It's not a question of if, but when, stores will start changing prices "on the fly." We've already seen this with Amazon, airlines, and Uber to some extent. It may not happen right away, but it will happen eventually. If there's one thing I've learned, it's that consumer rights are often overshadowed by corporate greed. The significant influence corporations wield through money and lobbyists just ensures that we, the consumers, usually get the short end of the stick.
 
I, for one, welcome our new ESL overlords.
 
Sigh, yet more evidence of the total death of economic understanding in this country. Prices have *always* been set based on purchasing behavior. It's not only normal, but desirable, as it has been repeatedly shown to increase overall utility. Furthermore and statistically speaking, for every price that gets raised as a result of better purchasing data, some other price gets lowered.
Whatever you're smoking that makes you believe this won't be used to jack up prices on a whim, would you send me some??? You win the gullibility award for the month of August...
 
Whatever you're smoking that makes you believe this won't be used to jack up prices on a whim, would you send me some??? You win the gullibility award for the month of August...

Me too, cause I would absolutely LOVE to live in that fantasy world, even if only for a few minutes BEFORE I go into the store !

Remember the Ferengi rules of acquisition:

#9: Opportunity plus instinct equals profit

#10: "Greed is eternal"
 
While my initial reaction is: What kind of new bulls*** is this?...

How different is it from buying from Amazon or Newegg or anywhere else online? They change prices whenever they want as they're always digital and infinitely adjustable. If Walmart and Kroger abuse the system, I hope people have somewhere else to shop though Walmart is well known for already driving their local competition out of business using predatory pricing so...

Sorry Walmart shoppers.
 
Currently in a town in France where all the local supermarkets use ESL tags. The tags tend to be placed on the shelf where there are maybe 5 different products below. My eyes are a little old so I can read the price but any information in a smaller font is very difficult to read. That means I have no clue what price goes with what product. Is the product something that's priced by weight or individually? If the product is one that can be broken up like bottles of mineral water? I don't know. Maybe, if I was all the time, I'd get used to it but I find ESLs just help to hide the price from the customer ... or maybe I just need glasses to shop.
 
You mean those same prices that went up last year to ridiculous new highs? Wow, 10% off of the price that is 50% higher then 6 months ago, what a steal!
Come now; you're more intelligent than this. You're conflating inflationary price increases with demand-based increases?

The grocery store is NOT a futures market. That 25% price increase is what we call PRICE GOUGING .. IDK what you're spewing about "ensuring customers dont go without"
One of the few things all economists agree upon -- liberal, conservative, classical, neoclassical, Chicago or Austrian school alike -- is that so-called "price gouging" is good for the consumer. When demand exceeds supply, there are only two possibilities -- either prices rise to suppress demand somewhat, or the shelves run bare. The inane belief the government should step in -- with Soviet-style price controls -- to prevent this has done countless harm in the real world.
 
Whatever you're smoking that makes you believe this won't be used to jack up prices on a whim, would you send me some??? You win the gullibility award for the month of August...
Thanks for chiming in from the peanut gallery. For anyone who's ever taken a microeconomics course and actually understood the math behind all those charts and graphs, the benefit to consumers is laid out in painstakingly clear detail.

Walmart has always "adjusted prices" to help demand meet supply. Nor do they do so "on a whim" but rather they:

a) lower prices to avoid overstock
b) raise prices to avoid understock, I.e. bare shelves.

Allowing them to make smaller, more frequent adjustments is a good thing for consumers. Not bad. Having lived in the prior Soviet Union where this eminently wise behavior was forbidden by law, I'll give you a spoiler alert, kid -- it didn't work out well in the end.
 
If you think the price will change between the time you pick it up and then check it out, take a photo of the price tag when you pick it up. During checkout or on your receipt, see if it changes.

Does anyone have a clue, how much labor is involved in changing prices?
 
Military Commissary uses digital tags and so does Best Buy. Both have used them for years in Texas.
The reason it's better is because of paper tags gets lost, changed ect... which can mess with pricing good or bad.
For some stores, it's also one less thing to worry about, price changes. It's all digital. Imo, it's better overall. There will always be challenges just like there is with paper. Nothing is ever perfect.
 
In the UK getting a quote on your Car Insurance online changes depending on the time.
ie, For the same info, it's cheaper at 12pm than it is at 4am.
The same could happen in store....
 

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