European Commission finds Apple violated the DMA, threatens huge $38 billion fine

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In context: The EU enacted the European Digital Markets Act last November, but companies like Google and Apple had until earlier this year to comply. Despite tweaking its policies and procedures, Apple may become the first Big Tech "gatekeeper" to get fined under the new law. The European Commission claims the company still unfairly restricts developers from informing customers of lower prices on alternative marketplaces.

In a preliminary ruling, the European Commission found Apple violated the Digital Markets Act (DMA). The EC claims that the App Store's rules and fees restrict app developers from directing consumers to alternative purchasing channels. Apple can review the investigation documents and dispute the charges in writing before the commission issues its final ruling by March 2025.

If Cupertino's lawyers can't turn it around, Apple could be on the hook for a fine of 10 percent of its global annual revenue or roughly $38.3 billion. The EC already has a second investigation underway that could lead to a repeat violation and a second fine of 20 percent. Google and Meta are facing similar investigations, Apple just happened to be first in line.

The DMA mandates that developers should be able to inform customers about cheaper purchasing options and allow them to buy apps through those channels. The commission argues that Apple's business terms restrict this freedom. Specifically, Apple's policies prevent developers from sharing pricing information within their apps and promoting offers through alternative distribution channels. While Apple permits in-app links to external websites, it imposes several restrictions that hinder developers from fully utilizing these links to communicate and transact with customers.

Additionally, the EC criticized Apple for charging excessive fees. Although Apple is entitled to charge for facilitating the initial customer acquisition via the App Store, it claims that Apple's fees exceed what is necessary. For instance, Apple charges a 27-percent commission on every purchase made within seven days after a user clicks a "link-out" from an app.

In response, Apple stated it has made changes to comply with the DMA and remains confident that its plans meet legal requirements. Apple highlighted that over 99 percent of developers would pay the same or lesser fees under the new terms and emphasized its ongoing commitment to engaging with regulators.

MacDailyNews notes that similar DMA regulatory uncertainties have led the Cupertino tech titan to delay introducing its Apple Intelligence AI tools and other features in the EU.

In a separate investigation, the commission put Apple's "Core Technology Fee" and other contractual requirements for third-party app developers and app stores under the microscope. This fee applies to app installs from various sources, including the App Store, alternative marketplaces, or developers' websites, with the first million installs being free and a €0.50 fee per install after that.

This new probe will examine several other Apple practices and terms, including the multi-step process for downloading and installing alternative app stores or apps on iPhones and the eligibility criteria imposed on developers. It will also scrutinize the "membership of good standing" requirement in the Apple Developer Program and the checks Apple uses to validate apps and alternative app stores for sideloading.

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Wow Europe seems like a horrible place to do business as a big company when they threaten you with fees in the tens of billions of dollars. The biggest thing for me is why are they charging 10% of global revenue? Why not a % of Apple's app store revenue specific to Europe?

It's one thing to try making sure Apple plays fair, but it's important that the EU has fair business laws. Otherwise Apple and other companies will be very tempted to stop doing business in the continent.

I just checked and their annual report shows while $383B was Apple's global revenue, all European revenue was $94B (see page 21). Meanwhile all service revenue was $85B for the year (see page 22): https://investor.apple.com/sec-filings/sec-filings-details/default.aspx?FilingId=17028298

This isn't perfect and still includes other services like Apple Card, Apple Care, Advertising, and more, but a good approximation of the relevant revenue here is 94*85/383 or $21B. Therefore a $2.1B fine would be much more appropriate. As it is right now, a $38B fine would wipe out half of their European revenue. Plus their operating margin is 30% so Apple would be losing money by continuing to do business in Europe. (n) (N)
 
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I don't like Apple, I don't use anything from the brand, But Europe is becoming a strange and overprotective alienated socialist cradle, I don't see them chasing the Nvidia monopoly.

These moves will only harm the consumer.
 
Seems like a grossly over complicated way of doing things. A much more simple law, along the lines of "Device makers shall not use crytographical means to prevent the actual device owner from using said device with third party hardware, software, or repair services" would prevent consumer abuse & promote more open markets without requiring lots of bickering on what should or should not be counted, and prevent these sort of lockdown shenanigans in more than just phones, but with other stuff like cars, farm equipment, or trains.
 
Wow Europe seems like a horrible place to do business as a big company when they threaten you with fees in the tens of billions of dollars. The biggest thing for me is why are they charging 10% of global revenue? Why not a % of Apple's app store revenue specific to Europe?

It's one thing to try making sure Apple plays fair, but it's important that the EU has fair business laws. Otherwise Apple and other companies will be very tempted to stop doing business in the continent.

I just checked and their annual report shows while $383B was Apple's global revenue, all European revenue was $94B (see page 21). Meanwhile all service revenue was $85B for the year (see page 22): https://investor.apple.com/sec-filings/sec-filings-details/default.aspx?FilingId=17028298

This isn't perfect and still includes other services like Apple Card, Apple Care, Advertising, and more, but a good approximation of the relevant revenue here is 94*85/383 or $21B. Therefore a $2.1B fine would be much more appropriate. As it is right now, a $38B fine would wipe out half of their European revenue. Plus their operating margin is 30% so Apple would be losing money by continuing to do business in Europe. (n) (N)


Do you think The USA is fair to foreign companies?
Do USA oil companies pay the same fines for polluting as say Shell paid- The US tax payer has paid trillions to clean up after USA companies over the years from poor mine dumping , soil contamination , river pollution , bad forestry, poor farming techniques and other practices etc etc
Or was it for VW for cheating tests, when the major USA manufacturers were doing it most likely
Or that Samsung got a fair trial at a court house just down the road from Apple , in an area benefitting from Apple.

Lets see what fines Boeing gets

I wouldn't cry for Apple ( well I wouldn't , but you shouldn't as well ) . bet these things are not out of blue, and lots of heads-up before. These Corps play a viscous game, they are brutal and soulless. Ethics are irrelevant, fines are considered the cost of doing business and often the cheapest solution to stealing , cheating , polluting , not providing. See USA ISPs lots of USA money with very little to show for it , and hardly even a wet bus ticket , with exclusive rights to exploit all human wetware in their profit extracting area with no remorse or compassion.
Directors hardly do prison time. Kill over 100 thousand people for obscene profits , pay a few laughable Billion . aka The Sackler great killing machine
USA is corrupt, Senators get crazy amounts of money to screw the people

Global corps like Uber. Apple are happy to flout every law they can , every consumer guarantee. To not pay a cent of tax anywhere, or look after employees once dumped

To have an argument, you have to show it only applying to non-EU companies , or unfairly burdensome

Now China, don't think you will be treated fairly
 
Oh, for ***** sake. Once again, Europe gots to get paid.
Why don't those lazy bastards get a job? Maybe open some frozen yogurt stands.

Targeted laws are the real crime.

An article last fall (NY Times or maybe the WSJ) had the headline "Expect a new fine or lawsuit soon" and mentioned this. Paraphrasing, but it's the gist of the story.
And here we are.

Who else does this to our companies? Just the EC.
They are NOT on our payroll, and they sure as hell are not one of our dependents.
Those ******** are worse than patent trolls because they make laws designed to slam a predetermined target. And then open some new bank accounts.

I don't like Apple, I don't use anything from the brand, But Europe is becoming a strange and overprotective alienated socialist cradle
Come on brother please, give the 30-year-old Rush Limbaugh babble a rest.

This is a disgusting dependence on other nations to support a lifestyle they cant
possibly secure any other way. They don't have it in them and they know it.
 
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I don't like Apple, I don't use anything from the brand, But Europe is becoming a strange and overprotective alienated socialist cradle, I don't see them chasing the Nvidia monopoly.

These moves will only harm the consumer.
Its more rights and protections for the populace, you should probably stop worshipping multi-billion to multi-trillion dollar corporations as if they don't work to maximize a profit margin and lure the consumers into their product to help neglect the environments they live in.
Many of these companies work as a black-box, and investigating and enforcing regulations on anything of the sort is a hellish-nightmare, this is the only practical way.

If they don't like it they can pull out of the country. Europe is a unity of several hundred different cultures, languages, ideaologies into a uniform movement that protects eachother, no matter what, its extremely respectable and something to work towards as an outsider.

Its fair to support this type of behavior because it benefits a populace of millions upon millions rather than a few hundred or a few thousand incomprehensibly wealthy people.

Apple already curates its products for a populace of individuals who are already well-off, this is backwards thinking at best.

As a US citizen I can say with extreme confidence that Europe's economy and infrastructure is extremely desireable. While the 'grass is greener on the other side' complex is very real, coming into a country yields far more potential in many situations than trying to find employment where you are born.
[Especially because European workers have far more rights, which is really, really good!]

An additional address to the Nvidia monopoly is that they are providing computational power. They called the AI bluff and every company with a telementry problem is coming to see how they can harness the exabytes of information they've obtained from their userbase and products to resell it to the consumer. Nvidia will not be held accountable for that, they're the ones selling the shovel.
 
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Probably not hard to see that if some EU companies or any others that cannot compete against big tech, the next best thing is to enact laws and fine them to to bring them down to their level. The EU needs money and that's all there is to it. Emerging tech waits for no one and one day the EU will find out it's a very lonely place out there.

 
I don't like Apple, I don't use anything from the brand, But Europe is becoming a strange and overprotective alienated socialist cradle, I don't see them chasing the Nvidia monopoly.

These moves will only harm the consumer.
In which way have Nvidia monopolized the market....please explain.
 
Unfortunately, big corporations often think they are above the law. If the apple can't comply, then they should stop selling those devices there. Somehow they comply with everything China is asking them to do...
It is a monopoly, and companies become very good in making sure they will stay monopoly. Only by enabling competition we can get a proper progress. Right now making the os an open platform is a way to ensure even Apple would need to compete. We all would gain on that.
 
I don't like Apple, I don't use anything from the brand, But Europe is becoming a strange and overprotective alienated socialist cradle, I don't see them chasing the Nvidia monopoly.

These moves will only harm the consumer.
Absolutely true. This quote reveals how inane this action is:

"... The EC claims that the App Store's rules and fees restrict app developers from directing consumers to alternative purchasing channels....."

The EC is claiming Apple's own stores are legally required to direct consumers to their own competitors.
 
Quite funny to see how many people think holding Apple accountable is a bad thing to do.

The EU wrote down the law (literally) and gave Apple the time to implement the changes. Apple is trying its best to circumvent what the law is trying to achieve whilst trying to get by on technicalities. The EU has decided this (rightly so imo) that Apple didn't stick to the laws and should get fined for it.

Obviously the logic behind the laws are that consumers don't get stuck with excessively high prices (Apples 30 percent) and arbitary limitations (simplest example is that Apple doesn't allow porn, obviously a huge market).

* Apple still wants a say in what third party stores can offer
* Apple wants 27 percent of any third party store sale or in App purchase (why? They're literally not involved). Any payment provider will charge 2-4% bringing the total to the same prices again
* Apple still doesn't allow mentioning anywhere in the App that paying through means other than their own payment system is cheaper.

Literally nothing would change other than third party app stores appearing. But from what Apple proposed it sounds like they can't have anything in it that Apple doesn't want them to, for nearly the same prices... So what's the point.
 
Quite funny to see how many people think holding Apple accountable is a bad thing to do.

The EU wrote down the law (literally) and gave Apple the time to implement the changes.
Oops! The "law" is incredibly vague, and certainly doesn't state that companies must allow in their own stores advertising for competitors.

Apple has had this policy in place since the store was created. If the EU cared about consumers rather than money, they'd have acted long ago. The EU never once issued a clarification or a stop-and-desist order. They allowed Apple to continue with this policy for decades --- then they attempt a $40 billion money grab.

Obviously the logic behind the laws are that consumers don't get stuck with excessively high prices (Apples 30 percent)
Companies set their own price on Apple's store -- or anywhere else they sell. And multiple companies have testified they save *more* than 30% by using Apple's platform than attempting to build and maintain their own.
 
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I am generally against government and regulations, but these giant companies just laugh at normal fines. So how other than a % of total revenue fine do get them to care if they break the law?
 
So how other than a % of total revenue fine do get them to care if they break the law?
Easy. You do what rational governments have done for more than 100 years: notify the company in question with a cease-and-desist letter:

"...A cease and desist is a written notice demanding that the recipient immediately stop an illegal or allegedly illegal activity. It may take the form of an order or injunction issued by a court or government agency ... A cease and desist order or injunction has legal power..."

Apple has run their app store the same way since it was founded decades ago. Not once did the EU notify Apple they considered the behavior illegal. Nor is there any law on the books that specifically bars the behavior in question.

Nobody says this. Because it is simply not true.
Of course it is. Apple's store provides a platform for sales, content distribution, and payment -- as well as fraud prevention, indemnification and insurance, and tax compliance and reporting for more than 150 different countries, many of which have dozens of sub-jurisdictions: more than 1,000 different sets of legal codes to abide by. Oh, and a DRM system as well.

There's no way a small app creator could provide all that for even 50% of their total revenue, and it's a good deal even for a medium-sized publisher. It's really only a drawback for the very large publishers.
 
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