MSI built a desktop motherboard that supports CAMM2 memory

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Forward-looking: JEDEC, the trade organization and standardization body that oversees memory standards in the computer industry, published the CAMM2 memory standard in December 2023. The following month, Micron became the first to announce modules based on the new standard and in April, teamed up with Lenovo on the first laptop to support LPCAMM2 memory. The new spec is generally thought of as a laptop-specific technology, but MSI is here to prove that is simply not true.

The Taiwanese tech firm has partnered with Kingston on what is believed to be the world's first Z790 desktop motherboard to support CAMM2 memory. A teaser shared on X highlights a board sporting a black PCB with silver accents. The usual DDR5 slots have been replaced with a single CAMM2 module – a Kingston Fury Impact DDR5 CAMM2 prototype, we are told.

Dubbed the Z790 Project Zero Plus, the new desktop board is part of the company's Project Zero series, meaning it relocates most of the connectors to the back of the motherboard for better cable management. This, in turn, can lead to improved airflow and aesthetics, so long as your case is designed to support rear connections.

The post was tagged with a Computex 2024 hashtag, so it is safe to assume it'll be on display at the trade show next month in Taipei.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, and whether or not CAMM2 has a future in the desktop PC space. According to Tom's Hardware, the Kingston CAMM2 memory does not use LPDDR5X and is instead limited to JEDEC DDR5 speeds. Should it prove a hit with enthusiasts, perhaps an LPDDR5X version could eventually materialize.

One of the major benefits of the new standard in laptops is in space saving, as LPCAMM2 affords a space-saving advantage of 64 percent over traditional DDR5 SODIMMs. Real estate is not as big of a concern in desktops as it is in laptops, although SFF systems could likely benefit from the compact design.

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It would've helped to explain why I should care about CAMM2 which I only first hear about now.
Its really exciting on laptops - you know how many laptops these days have soldiered memory, since it is faster, uses less power, and takes up less space than SO-DIMMS? Well CAMM units are nearly as fast & low power as soldiered memory, also fit into slim confines, while still being easy to replace. For desktop use in their current form they are less exciting, but still should allow for higher memory bandwidth, and make it easier to fit in big CPU coolers.
 
Oh you mean the ram thats 2x as much as normal dimms ... fu msi

This is just the standard chicken & egg problem in tech; parts following new standards won't get cheaper until they ramp up production, but obviously you need someone who is willing to pay the higher prices at first to get that production ramped up. If you don't like the idea of paying more for the new RAM style MSI offers plenty of motherboards still using DIMM RAM.
 
Its really exciting on laptops - you know how many laptops these days have soldiered memory, since it is faster, uses less power, and takes up less space than SO-DIMMS? Well CAMM units are nearly as fast & low power as soldiered memory, also fit into slim confines, while still being easy to replace. For desktop use in their current form they are less exciting, but still should allow for higher memory bandwidth, and make it easier to fit in big CPU coolers.
These are good points. For laptops and ultra-mobile there great benefit to be had. For desktops though? Not so much. What MSI is trying to do here remains a mystery.
 
It would've helped to explain why I should care about CAMM2 which I only first hear about now.

https://www.techspot.com/news/96668-camm-memory-could-successor-dimm.html

Dell revealed CAMM over a year ago. Most OEMs and JEDEC liked CAMM so they made some slight tweaks and ratified it as 2 official standards (CAMM2, LPCAMM2). (SO)DIMMs are clunky, 90's tech. DIMMs are bulky and suffer speed limitations due to the difficulty in running equal-length traces for them. CAMM addresses these problems and also has the added benefit of always saturating the memory bus (no more single/dual channel confusion). Hopefully it will be implemented quickly and laptop OEMs decide that a CAMM connector is more cost-effective than LPDDR5/6. CAMM2 could also enable desktop motherboards to mount memory on the backside of the motherboard. In fact it may be that DDR6 marks the death of the DIMM.

The only question is, will CAMM2 prevail or will the new trend of on-package DRAM as seen by Apple and now Intel become the standard?

https://www.techspot.com/news/100904-lunar-lake-mx-leak-suggests-intel-serious-about.html
 
I don't like idea of CAMM2 in desktops. Example if you want upgrade from 32GB to 64GB you need to buy entire new 64GB module instead additional 32GB traditional DDRs.
 
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