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Hi all, I drive a Skoda Rapid 1.0 TSI AT since December 2020. Of late, I have been thinking about this particular engine and here are my observations after driving around 50% in the city, 20% on highways and the remaining 30% in mixed road conditions:
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Conclusion - My next purchase is NOT going to be a turbo-petrol. I will consider EVs, hybrids or a simple NA petrol + AT only. So my question to all members of Team bhp will you buy a turbo petrol as your next car?
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
I own two turbo-petrols and am extremely happy with both of them. These are 2.0L turbo-petrols mated to ATs in the Superb & Thar.
- Fast performance
- Excellent torque & driveability
- Punchy mid-range
- DSG / AT that makes great use of the torque.
I am NEVER going back to a naturally-aspirated petrol. Once you get used to the torque & punch of turbo-petrol, NA engines feel very boring (sole exception = City 1.5L petrol). Drive the Fronx 1.0L turbo-petrol & 1.2L NA back to back and I can assure you, you won't touch the 1.2L NA with a barge pole.
Power delivery is more effortless with turbo-petrol, unlike NA petrol where you have to rev & wring the necks off, for speed.
The Superb has a decent FE for its size. The Thar is a royal guzzler, but keeping its weight + bricklike aerodynamics + power + fatter tyres in mind, I guess 6 km/l is alright. I also drive my cars with a heavy right foot, so FE has never been a priority.
The Rapid 1.0 TSI is a w-i-l-d car!
It's a 3-cylinder turbo-petrol and is known to be full of noise, vibrations & feel. We mentioned as such in our review of the Rapid 1.0 TSI. However, you cannot paint all turbo-petrols with the same brush. The 4-cylinder turbo-petrols I have are so smooth, you can't even tell the motor is running!
Again, something specific to the VW 1.0 TSI.
This is the no.1 downside to turbo-petrols. Drive a turbo-diesel hard and you'll still get great FE. Drive a turbo-petrol hard and you'll get 5 - 7 kmpl. That being said, keep in mind that you are driving a torque-converter AT and 90% of torque-converter Petrol ATs offer poor efficiency.
Most of the cons you have mentioned in the Rapid 1.0 TSI AT were already mentioned in our Official Review. I think you bought the wrong car, and not the wrong engine type (i.e. turbo petrol) per se.
Here's what BHPian Maky had to say on the matter:
I drive a Turbo Petrol in my VW Tiguan.
Mine is the 2.0 TSI gem of an engine mated to the excellent 7-speed DQ381-7A gearbox. I am extremely extremely pleased with it. Right from when I first drove it in the Octavia, one of the many other vehicles I TD'd before the final purchase.
Pros
- Explosive Power
- Excellent fuel economy, for what it is.
Cons
- While the turbo lag is very well contained, being someone who has driven NA all his life. I do miss the instant acceleration of the NA.\
- You kind of need to learn driving all over again when switching to a Turbo unit after a lifetime of NA driving, I felt.
Here's what BHPian Dr.AD had to say on the matter:
I am very happy with the turbo-petrol engine in my Thar. It is a lovely engine, and in fact, this engine is one of the highlights of the car.
As @GTO pointed out, most of the issues OP mentioned are specific to that 1.0 TSI turbo-petrol engine. A very small displacement, 3-cylinder engine is bound to have some issues even if it is turbocharged. It is understandable to a large extent.
But in general, 4-cylinder turbo-petrols are great! I will never go back to a naturally aspirated engine now. Both my cars are turbocharged (one turbo-diesel and one turbo-petrol), and both the engines are fantastic! There is no going back to NA once you get used to a good turbo engine!
Yes, the fuel economy in turbo-petrol engines can be poor when driven hard. But that is a well-known thing and that is the price one has to pay for everything else that a turbo-petrol engine offers that is good.
Further, it is not always the case that naturally aspirated petrol engines give great mileage when pushed hard. For example, my previous car was a Maruti SX4 with a 1.6L NA petrol engine with a 5-speed manual. Whenever I drove that car hard on a highway or through the hills, it returned about 9km/l to 10km/l. Compared to that, my Thar (with a 2.0L turbo-petrol engine and 6-speed AT) gives about 8km/l to 9km/l in similar conditions. I do not think the difference is that big.
Overall, yes, I am absolutely happy with the turbo-petrol engine in my Thar.
Here's what BHPian Rajeevraj had to say on the matter:
Voted Yes. 10+ years and 85000 km with the 1.2 TSI DSG and I am extremely happy with it and am fairly sure my next cars have to be turbo petrols.
Several of your negatives are definitely specific to the 3-cylinder TSI. The 1.2 tsi is extremely quiet and has a nice sing to it when you rev. Mileage can fluctuate as you mentioned, but for me, that has not been a big criterion.
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