I am so glad I have kept an eye on several Toyota Tundra groups and pages on social media to keep up with the problems of the new Tundras. It looks like the older Tundra trucks are more reliable than the newer ones and people complain about the emission standards and the green agenda, saying they hurt Toyota's reliability. I don't know if the emissions standards are hurting any car company's reliability, but I have read about it in other car-brand related forums as well.
Anyway! It was only two days ago that I wrote about a frustrated new Toyota Tundra owner who said his 2024 Tundra has a blown engine at 7,000 miles and asked if he should fight for a replacement of the truck vs the replacement of the engine. Many of you commented under that article and gave him good suggestions. But now I am seeing another very hot discussion in the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners' group on Facebook in which a man, named David Wallace, posted the picture of his 2022 Tundra going to the dealership for the 3rd time for a very frustrating reason.
Wallace says, "My 2022 is going back to the dealership. 3rd motor going in. First engine replacement happened at 30k miles. This one is at 49k miles. Engine locked up while cruising down the highway at 60mph. This is the third and last time this truck will leave me stranded on the side of the road."
At the time of this writing, David's post had generated 285 comments.
"I don’t get it, did they just partially replace the engine? Seems like there’s something about your truck that is chewing up engines," writes Shawn Ace.
Wallace replied and said, "Toyota only offers short blocks for engine replacements. So cross contamination off an older part is a real possibility."
Asked if there are any technical reasons these failures happen, one of group members said that they are quite frequently discussed in the group and the main bearing seems to be the most common failure in some of the new Toyota Tundra trucks. The cause isn’t really known, but is speculated based on a few factors. Improper cleaning of block, improper torquing of the engine girdle/main caps (it’s one piece) and/or a single person not doing their job at TMMAL... The first few failures are sometimes caused by a bad batch of bearings per someone who use to work for the bearing manufacturer.
As I mentioned the problem with the other new Toyota Tundra in my previous story (linked above), I am coming to conclusion that when these engines fail they should be replaced with a completely assembled long block. There is no telling what metal is where when you put old engine parts on a new short block after a failure.Just thinking of the labor costs of taking an engine apart and putting old heads on a short block is just crazy to me as far as common sense and labor costs.
It seems to be that the hybrid Toyota Tundra trucks don't have issues vs the non-hybrid ones. Marshal Hayes has an interesting comment in the discussion, which I find very revealing. He writes, "I just bought a 23. The Toyota dealer I went to told me that they had had zero issues with the hybrid model. But they are inundated with issues in the non-hybrid. Must be some failure point there that the hybrid doesn’t experience."
In this case, my advice would be this: you need to test drive both the Hybrid and the gas-only version of the Tundra to help you decide which model best fits you and your driving needs.
My view on the situation.
David, that's incredibly frustrating to hear about your Tundra's engine problems. Two engine replacements in under 50k miles are definitely not what you expect from a new Toyota. Glad you're safe after the engine locked up, that could have been dangerous on the highway.
Have you reached out to Toyota directly and explained the situation? They should definitely be stepping up to resolve this issue for you definitively. Maybe some other Tundra owners in the group have had similar experiences and can offer advice on how to deal with Toyota. Please click on the red link below and write your comment if you have had any experience with a similar situation. What would you suggest David to do?
Images by David Wallace, from the 2022+ Toyota Tundra Owners group on Facebook, credited and linked above in the article.
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I would say go upgrade to…
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I would say go upgrade to the last Gen with the 5.7.
I would say I am very…
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I would say I am very pleased with my older Toyota Tundra truck. I am kicking it with 315k on my 2010 TRD pro 4x4 Tundra.
I’d suggest ripping out the…
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I’d suggest ripping out the new POS motor and going back to the best 5.7 so far.
Yes there are issues and it…
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Yes there are issues and it’s being addressed by Toyota. Let’s put things in perspective. This is not even 1% of the Toyota Tundra problems. So everyone needs to calm down.
I'd suggest he fight for a…
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I'd suggest he fight for a lemon law. 3rd time for major engine failure... Yeah. My guy has a very strong case for a buyback. At this point the dealership wouldn’t have a leg to stand on trying to stop it.
At this point makes me…
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At this point makes me wonder how they’re using the vehicle. If they’re letting it warm up or if they’re maintaining oil changes and such. Once is an anomaly, twice could be a coincidence but usually 3 times is a pattern.
These are all COVID cars and…
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These are all COVID cars and trucks. The world was shut down and no one could get parts. Car companies started to get their parts from anyone who could provide them with little time for QA. It was a colossal global supply chain shit-show. 2021 and 2022 cars will always have issues. And the Tundra was a new model too, so double whammy.