AMD Ryzen 7800X3D vs. 7900X3D vs. 7950X3D: Gaming Benchmark

All this shows me the 7600X3D is a heck of a gaming chip for the price (if it existed)

I knew I was going to game at 2160p so I simply took the 7950x.

You get better compute performance and the same gaming performance since you are in GPU bottleneck anyway...

Unless you play games that are not optimized like Dragon Dogma.

However, gaming benchmarks for CPU are unrealistic. Nobody would play in CPU bottleneck in 2024. If you are playing at 1080p with a 4090 or an XTX, then you don't know anything about DIY PC.

redgarl said:

I knew I was going to game at 2160p so I simply took the 7950x.

You get better compute performance and the same gaming performance since you are in GPU bottleneck anyway...

Unless you play games that are not optimized like Dragon Dogma.

However, gaming benchmarks for CPU are unrealistic. Nobody would play in CPU bottleneck in 2024. If you are playing at 1080p with a 4090 or an XTX, then you don't know anything about DIY PC.

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OR, you are chasing ultra high FPS.

But I guess it only counts as DIY PC if it fits your specific narrative of how to use a PC.

Theinsanegamer said:

OR, you are chasing ultra high FPS.

But I guess it only counts as DIY PC if it fits your specific narrative of how to use a PC.

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Realistically he's not wrong though. If you bought a 4090, therefore dropping close to (or possibly more than) $2000 on your GPU, would you seriously only use a 1080p display? Even if you're chasing super-high framerates, the monitors designed with 300Hz+ displays are almost always 1440p these days. There are very, very few high-end 1080p monitors now; the vast majority of screens at that resolution are low- to mid-range, sub-$300 stuff, and again, if you bought a 4090 you probably have the money for a much, much better display unless you are incredibly bad at budgeting.

AdamNovagen said:

Realistically he's not wrong though. If you bought a 4090, therefore dropping close to (or possibly more than) $2000 on your GPU, would you seriously only use a 1080p display? Even if you're chasing super-high framerates, the monitors designed with 300Hz+ displays are almost always 1440p these days. There are very, very few high-end 1080p monitors now; the vast majority of screens at that resolution are low- to mid-range, sub-$300 stuff, and again, if you bought a 4090 you probably have the money for a much, much better display unless you are incredibly bad at budgeting.

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"playing at 1080p" does not mean "using a 1080p panel". These things are correlated, but not the same thing.

I feel, one needs to reinspect the true value of the 7900x3d. I suspect the 7900x3d (and even a tiny 7600x or any modern Ryzen) to be equal to 7800x3d and 7950x3d when you are not in cpu limit (like in 4k, where a 4090 should be). At least differences should be pretty boring (and this is why we don't see benchmarks of those resolutions).

So, if you are not cpu limited, the 7900x3d gives you a better allaround cpu with 4 more cores for productivity. And they boost higher, too. Suddenly the 7900x3d is not too shabby for 20$ more than the 7800x3d in this scenario, or am I missing something?

Thanks for the article, Steve! I have been waiting for something like this, though as you suggest, it is about what we would expect.

I saved up and built a 7800x3d system last year with fairly high end parts because of the new AM5 Socket. My thinking was that the 7800x3d was the perfect CPU for the money at the time. I chose it planning to replace it in a generation or two while keeping my motherboard and most other parts. Hopefully I picked the right motherboard (MSI MEG X670E ACE) and everything else.

Since most reviews are based on prices and availability of parts right now, it is more of a challenge to buy parts for socket platforms that will be around for a while. I wish more reviews would factor in the "long game"...

I have had my Ryzen 7700x for 16 months now, as a placeholder in my x670e HERO board.

It is great to see how AMD's X3D (stacking) technology really helps with certain types of games, etc. The AM5 platform is going places later this year and I am so glad I chose the AM5 platform for my own personal gaming rig/studio (even though I was building raptor-lake rigs for clanmates).

Looking at some of the X3D's jumps vs baseline in some of these graphs, I can't wait to sink my wallet into one of the new 8800X3D's that are coming in ~6 months time. It is going to be legit.

I conservatively suspect nearly 20%+ more frames (than the 7700x) & using my 1 year old XTX...

I dont really understand why people are buying anything but the 7600X when it comes to AMD. Times have changed, you really really dont need an expensive CPU to play games with. The 7600X is $208 right now, thats a good price for a gaming part.

Where I live there are some amazing motherboard, CPU and RAM deals on a 12700KF (roughly $250). Id probably just go for that. I'm sure its not as good as Ryzen at gaming maybe. But it will be more than good enough to feed a modern sensibly priced CPU.

manowar51 said:

I dont really understand why people are buying anything but the 7600X when it comes to AMD.

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Probably better to go with the 7600 (without the X) as it offers near identical performance, doesn't run so hot, comes with a decent cooler included and is cheaper. Anyway, that's why I went for the 7600. Admittedly, if I could of got a decent MB and RAM included for $250, then I'd of gone for that as well.

These tests should be at 1440p. Yes, I know that the differences between the cpu’s there sometimes will be 0 as it becomes GPU bound in some games - but it’s the differences in this resolution that will be the deciding factor for me. Say there’s 0 difference between a 7700x and a 7800x3d at 1440p - then in a real scenario - people shouldn’t be falling for the gimmick that is «gaming cpu’s»

So please - come with 1440p Benchmarks

Theinsanegamer said:

OR, you are chasing ultra high FPS.

But I guess it only counts as DIY PC if it fits your specific narrative of how to use a PC.

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I would say his specific narrative is by far the norm, given the article is about benchmarking gaming performance. That said, it would be nice to see some actual CPU related games, stuff like Paradox games where they can slow down late game.

The "3d" really doesn't seem necessary unless you are using your PC SOLELY for gaming - AND you require the absolute best FPS you can get.

Almost all games are GPU bound these days and even CPUs from previous generations give perfectly acceptable FPS.

As someone who uses his PC primarily for productivity, I know none of them are for me but... even my Threadripper 7980x games perfectly fine - and it is clearly not designed for gaming...

Theinsanegamer said:

"playing at 1080p" does not mean "using a 1080p panel". These things are correlated, but not the same thing.

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True, but is it going to be good to play 1080 on a 4K panel? I'm not so sure that's really better.