3M: A 7%-Yielding, 30% Undervalued Dumpster Fire

Sep. 29, 2023 7:54 AM ET3M Company (MMM)13 Comments

Summary

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Introduction

It's time to talk about the 3M Company (NYSE:MMM), the second-biggest disappointment from Minnesota after the 0-3 Vikings.

Excluding dividends, 3M shares are trading more than 60% below their all-time high. They are down 22% year-to-date and less than

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Comments (13)

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There will be a reduction in dividend. There have been clear signals in the earnings calls. Timing will be aligned with spin but could occur sooner. Performance has been weak since 2018 and leadership team has been disfunctional. VALUE TRAP.
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e658218
Today, 10:12 AM
My working assumption is that they will use the spinoff of the healthcare unit as a reason to reset the dividend. Just like so many other companies have been doing.
Great article. Although as a former turnaround specialist I do like turnaround stories, and frequently gravitate toward investments in them, you had me at "dumpster fire" on MMM. I'm glad I have avoided it over the many years it has been in distress. Avoiding bad investments is one of the pillars of solid investment strategies.

My highest conviction turnaround story is C, and look forward to seeing the interview of its CEO Jane Fraser on CNBC TV this morning.
@ndardick I'm going to re-watch that interview. Thanks for the tip!

Enjoy your weekend!
Marrk
Today, 10:21 AM
@ndardick "the interview of its CEO Jane Fraser on CNBC TV this morning." — I'm listening to it now. "We're taking steps . . . Things are getting back to the new normal, whatever that is." She's not giving a substantive answer to a single question. Good luck with C.
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"3M has adjusted its earnings per share guidance for the year, raising it from the original range of $8.50 to $9.00 to a new range of $8.60 to $9.10."
They must be desperate for good news to announce EPS improvement of 1.18%.
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SUE2
Today, 9:04 AM
Far as push back, I would not be concerned. True of every actively traded stock-listed stock. At any price. there is a seller who thinks it is a good time to sell and a buyer who thinks it is a good time to buy. In terms of MMM it is yet another company being fed on by vultures called attorneys. See the ads. Sign up for our class action suit, the more sign up the more we make, oops how did truth slip out? Typically we take one third of anything collected plus expenses. The companies know that a jury will think poor people damaged big EVIL COMPANY, guilt does not matter. Take from company, they have MONEY and give to poor.
I hold MMM the money that has simply evaporated, some of it was MINE.
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I sold this in December last year at a tax loss.. I keep thinking about taking the dive back in.. the dividend is really the only reason to buy it and hope they can keep it rolling with all these lawsuits.
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So very hard to quantify unresolved liabilities, thanks for the approach. I feel a like there is more that is needed to this article. As much as the dividend is touted, the article does not address where the AFO or CF to pay the dividend. I almost believe the debt, legal liabilities and dividend will all move. The spin off will take s much debt as possible and the CF it has but it will take both.
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dynx
Today, 8:33 AM
Absolutely love the title. Long
Adding a bit every couple of weeks. There is certainly a lot of risks as you’ve outlined but that’s what deep value investing is about. Keep your position size small….luckily the price plunge is doing a great job of managing that for owners!
@dynx I’m glad you liked the title! Thanks for stopping by!
Leo, Ty for the article. I believe you are missing a key component of 3M’s liabilities which is their international exposure. Dutch, Belgian, Fench and British national and local authorities and individuals all have equally valid claims against 3M. In the US, when you parse through their settlements you will see that they address only about 40% of the potential claims. Caveat Emptor.
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