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Energy Transfer: An Old Adversary Threatens A Material Future Change

Summary

  • Energy Transfer faces potential shutdown of the DAPL pipeline as the Army Corps of Engineers presents five alternatives, ranging from increased operation to removal.
  • The ongoing court case and uncertainty surrounding the pipeline's future overshadow Energy Transfer's other activities and contribute to its cheap valuation.
  • The quant system is unable to accurately forecast the impact of the potential liability.  Management likewise has a similar stance but believes the liability is insignificant.
  • The Quant system "Hold" rating appears to demonstrate some market trepidation about the future despite the relatively low price and high distribution yield.
  • Once the DAPL decisions have been made based on the report from the Army Corps of Engineers, the court fights are likely to resume again.
  • This idea was discussed in more depth with members of my private investing community, Oil & Gas Value Research. Learn More »

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Energy Transfer (NYSE:ET) has had a quiet time since the Army Corps was ordered to come up with a new study on the effects of the DAPL pipeline. That has led more than a few investors to think that

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Comments (80)

asg01 profile picture
@Long Player
Well, after a lengthy hiatus, the “Long Lummox” returns. Once again, the sound of futility, signifying nothing. Your (one of many) ridiculous thoughts:
“For me, I have followed many examples like this. The latest of those was my coverage of California Resources (CRC) up until the bankruptcy filing in fiscal year 2020.” Why not cite Enron or Bernie Madoff or perhaps Disney, a company that truly made poor decisions and “woke” itself into a greater than 50% drop in market value.

You sir are, well, sad. Like a dog with a bone, no meat on it, splintered, stuck in its craw but continues chewing as it knows no better.

You really should stick to small Canadian oil plays. There you can throw a dart and likely do better than 50%, likely a great result for you.

$6.00 gas and $6.00 eggs are not going to put rational folks in the minds of the sky is falling crowd, encouraging less fossil energy independence, while realizing that fossils will be the mainstay of our, (the world’s) energy needs for decades to come.

A prediction: DAPL and Keystone will both be operating, long after the lunatics in the current administration are gone and well-forgotten.

And, incidentally, this “article” would have been rejected by my 8th grade English teacher for content, lack of a compelling, or even reasonable thesis, along with syntax. Great job and though it is difficult to image it was yours, the headline is ridiculous.
frisco7 profile picture
After reading the comments, perhaps LP might honor himself with a little humility and say that this blog was a needless "own goal". I have been following him for a good while, but this one requires me to start out in more skeptical mode on his future pieces.
T
So how much did dapl cost? How much over this 8 years has the partnership make?

How much more will the partners make if it is ever shut down.

A thoughtful analysis would run all the numbers on everything before even thinking about writing an article with such negative consequences.
Long Player profile picture
@Texasthump What you forget is if it is shut down, then the profits will be disgorged from the partnership......all of them
frisco7 profile picture
Funny that in the span of two or three years past when the pipeline was a three blog per week event, and in all the dozens (or hundreds) of blogs since then, this has been on no one's radar and has gone unmentioned. Likewise by the CNBC talking heads who suddenly discovered ET about a year ago. Mind, they could all have been wrong about this dreadful overhang, or perhaps LP is. Now suddenly it's a major overhang and the cause of the low price? gimmeabreak.
Long Player profile picture
@frisco7 It has been a cause for a long time whether or not it is in the headlines.
C
I think this author just needs to stay retired and not write articles that have no merit. So this guy really thinks ET will file bankruptcy if DAPL is shut down? How much EBITDA does DAPL contribute to ET? Not much. I think you forgot to hit record on the next Wheel of Fortune episode.
Long Player profile picture
@CRAIGK007 I did not say bankrupt. You did so you are the one who hi the panic button
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Wall59
Today, 1:46 PM
This Author lost all credibility covering ET when he recommended Selling your Units at a valuation less than half of where it trades today.
Long Player profile picture
@Wall59 Really? So doing better elsewhere does not count?
R
Lost a lot of respect for LP with this one. Read the comments before even thinking of selling. They're more relevant than the article.
Peter Frorer profile picture
The author spends much time discussing different companies other than ET and zero time discussing the impact felt by ET if in fact DAPL is ever shut down? This is not RESEARCH, this report is nothing but GOSSIP and fearmongering. If the dividend distribution is at risk, then the author ought to explain mathematically how that is so, yet he refrains from ANY substantive math and explanation, wtf? I appreciate reading negative thoughts about investments I follow and or own, but I don't appreciate foolish, stubborn comments that seem to be more about personal pride. As for DAPL, the impact is not going to be dramatic to ET either way. A positive review from the Corps of Engineers is the most likely outcome and will be marginally treated as a slight positive for ET. An unexpected negative review from the Corps will be disappointing and a bit hurtful, but the ET story is compelling either way and will likely continue to become even more so as time passes. ET is generating over $13 billion a year in EBITDA, stripping away the DAPL revenues and possibly fining ET a $ billion or two really doesn't change the picture much at all. ET can use much of the pipeline and won't be digging up and removing much of it even in an absolutely worst case cazy scenario, that idea is pure looney nonsense.
Long Player profile picture
@Peter Frorer So the low return on capital of this company never came from issues like this?
H
I'm actually considering selling my position. I bought 750 units at $8.50 a few years back. Not enough units to deal with the additional costs for tax preparation. Don't want to add at the current level either.
J
All I know is after our ENBL merger made ET our second largest holding I
reviewed the question do we leave or do we stay and grow by Compounding
we stayed and built our Cash Flow to enough to live a superb life on just ET.
No way will we ever sell to much Capital Gain and we profited in 20 by just buying more ENBL after the cuts in distribution. We did in 21 and 22 shift to building EPD investment to twice ET and feel very secure with that choice.
Obviously risk is present but we buy going up and we buy going down the key thing is Compounding that wonderful Return of Capital with no Current Tax Load. In all our adventures of Roll Ups and Mergers we learned that a real
General partner like especially the Duncan’s but also the Warren’s are what
allows us to avoid the real risk to an MLP; sale of the Partnership creating a huge Taxable Event. It’s very nice to have our top three holdings be EPD, ET
and WES.
Currently we are hitting all time portfolio highs but it’s the Cash Flow growth that we watch, last year almost exactly 25 % this year YTD 17.2% will pass 20% by year end over 22. Thank goodness we chose to move to Hard Asset driven
income with a very important Tax Deferral till Step up Basis do we part.
ET is Safe Enough. Heck I could have kept T,F,CS,PFE etc talk about risk that
would have been pure loss. Not to mention those risk free Bonds in 22, never wanted those at all, still don’t. I remember the replacement of the “dollar” in 71.
Obviously we are in a dangerous period as to Midstream specifically Consolidation is high risk to holders of many MLP’S.
I know every Corporation General Partner swears they will never sell but they will if the Management is rewarded. The owner investor General Partner can’t take the Tax hit.
Best Luck Partners
John
PS LongPlayer I retired from SA unfollowed everyone but can’t resist ET and EPD articles yet; soon. Busy over in the Creative world, the thing for you to sell
is WBD.
p
I am long ET so I read this article. Learned nothing.
m
If you read the opinions in the Army Engineers report, on every issue the best financial and ecological outcomes favor the pipeline remaining open. Couple that with the global need for NGL’s and it is highly unlikely the DAPL gets shut down. Have owned for about 8 years and have no intention of selling over this issue.
Long Player profile picture
@mtg16 We will find out. But there is five options there
Shamanski profile picture
This guy is obsessed with ET, but its looking great and has the potential for more gains.
R
@Shamanski I disagree. Long Player is a very measured and reasonable analyst with tremendous experience. While I sometimes very much disagree with his analysis his positions are ALWAYS well thought out and taken seriously and with significant value. His take on ET is absolutely spot-on in this article.
-RM
Long Player profile picture
@Shamanski Not really. ET has failed to meet its profit goals time and again. That is important
T
Did myself the pleasure and effort and read the whole study. First, the quintessence of the study is that from the 5 alternatives stated ( 1. Remove, 2. Closing and abandon the river part of the pipeline and building another route which was already part of the first easement, 3. Keep the first easement, 4. Grant a new easement with even more safety regulations for the existing pipeline, 5. 2 and 5 have to be seen together as one alternative because 1 and 5 is out of the equation.
So only 3 and 4 are possible and probable solutions when all the different environmental impacts analyzed in the study are accounted. 3 would be politically not very intelligent because the lawsuits wouldn’t end with further insecurity. So the most probable outcome is that all the interested parties would accept a negotiated solution 4.
Conclusion: the author just didn’t do objective homework. Second, the Dakota pipeline will be operated basically untouched. The study made it easy for the judge.
Long Player profile picture
@The American You have an opnion. You stated your opinion. I will wait for the outcome. There is nothing wrong with me waiting either.
asg01 profile picture
@The American
Thoughtful analysis and #4 is a reasonable outcome.

The writer (as opposed to “author”) rarely, if ever, does “homework.
Gary H profile picture
I will continue to be very long ET/PRE. They must continue to pay the Preferred distribution before they can pay ANY Common dividend. Very secure even if Common dividend gets cut.
Long Player profile picture
@Gary H That is certainly a possibility
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pcv71
Today, 11:21 AM
I’ve been in at just under $10.00 for sometime now. Love earning my 11.5% dividend each year. Gonna hold onto this baby for a while most likely.
Long Player profile picture
@pcv71 Just make sure you realize what is about to come and what might happen.
A
If I'm reading this correctly, DAPL, LLC owns the pipeline. Is ET a general or limited partner? As a limited partner, ET would have no liability beyond the cash invested. If so an unfavorable ruling would bankrupt DAPL, the LP's would loose their investment, and life would go on.
Long Player profile picture
@AK Maverick ET is the operator of the partnership. ET has all the responsibilities of an operator as well as a partner
Ptcamd77 profile picture
I think upside is limited after move up buy back below 12 unless economy falls hard.
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whoosh21
Today, 10:43 AM
long player is the persistent et short, he always talks it down
Secular_Income_Driven profile picture
@whoosh21 LongPlayer actually opined that ET 'might' be suitable for those that understand the risk. Technically, that's a HUGE change in his attitude toward ET where he was 100% bashing it. I take that to be an admission he was wrong on the stock, despite him still trying to claim victory by touting the worst may still yet come. Because I certainly don't recall him saying it was remotely suitable over the last few years.
Long Player profile picture
@whoosh21 I don't like drama. But no, I am not sure as the whole point for me is there is too much uncertainty for an income idea. That is neither short nor long. That is uncertain.
Long Player profile picture
@Secular_Income_Driven That is the position I have long had. That is not a change
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whoosh21
Today, 10:41 AM
give the current global oil market with the saudis, and putin exercising control over the oil market, and setting an inflationary price. i doubt that biden will pander to the reservation indians. the oil spill issues are low probability, and low impact. a shutdown of dapl would not mean a big hit to the et bottom line, small price discount, maybe
Long Player profile picture
@whoosh21 Biden has nothing to do with this. The only thing he has done is filled vacant positions to get things working as they should. The result is Willow is now a legitimate go and permits are being issued to honor existing agreements. When the courts are done, that is what will happen here. He will obey the courts and the rule of law.
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