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British American Tobacco: Consensus Bulls May Be Wrong Again

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Summary

  • The market has proved my earlier 'Strong Sell' rating correct. I maintain my stance as I am skeptical of the bullish arguments based on low-valuation and non-combustibles product growth:
  • Combustibles still matter most above all else; more than new growth products, more than the new CEO and more than ESG.
  • New categories do not move the needle; they are too small and growing too slowly to make a difference.
  • The secular decline in combustibles may be stronger than it seems as volume declines continue even as alternative data shows inflationary pressures to have reduced.
  • As expected earlier, the stock has de-rated even further. I believe it will continues to be a value trap unless there is a radical business diversification.
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I had a "Strong Sell" on British American Tobacco (NYSE:BTI) (OTCPK:BTAFF) in my last article on this stock. Out of the last 41 Seeking Alpha articles on this company, I have been the

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Comments (26)

g
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
g
Thank you for being a bear! It's the bulls and bears that make a market, and those of us who invest in companies want to know both the good (management view) and the real (sell side) news.
All that said, like many high dividend stocks, BTI is suffering in comparison to CDs and bonds. 18-24 months ago, many investors searching for yield had only one place to go, and BTI was one of the strong names. Fall and are coming, and so may a pause or reduction in rates. Then BTI (and many others) will likely get some interest. Just like 0%, 5% can't last forever.
In the meantime, investors like us need analysts like you to ferret out the potential issues in the names we hold. It's appreciated.
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Val126
Today, 10:54 AM
BTI is not a value trap. Value traps dont grow earnings by 6%.

I dont know where you bought your crystal ball that told you that BTI will be down in H1 2023 but give me link I will order too.

Than it is nice that over period of one year SPY outperformed BTI by 9%. But SPY is at valuations seen only three times in last decade and three times we got 20+% drops few months later. So I can only laught about you claiming that BTI underperformed for few months. It does not matter. Last year BTI overperformed by a huge margin and will again.
G
Let's be honest, since May a lot of dividend stocks had a few rough months, especially the ones with high dividends, not just BTI. That doesn't prove your story in May that the price action of BTI is based on the actual business but based on sentiment. All REITs are in the doghouse at the moment but that doesn't mean that they are all bad.

You could at least present a few company-facts for the "declining" business which BTI presented on 26th of July for the first half of 2023 that do not fit into your narrative:

Revenue constant currency +2.6% (2.8% organic growth)
Earnings per share constant currency +5.3%
Operating Margin +0.4%

How you get to your revenue growth rate I honestly don't know because I have the numbers from their half year statement and you don't disclose what you adjusted for. You should also mention that they exited Russia and Belarus which accounted for 2.9% of their total revenue. I doubt that they will have such an impact every year, so to adjust for that is totally reasonable and changes the picture of their combustible-business in AME (+6.0% revenue growth) and APMEA (+9.1%) completly. Perhaps you should mention what you excluded in your YoY comparison and not just present some shrinking numbers. Overall their combustible business grew 0.2% YoY (Constant currency) and not -0.8% or -7.1% (whatever number that is) because they managed to compensate the combustible volume decline with an increase in pricing (-511 pound volume change, + 548 pound price). Like they did since 10-20 years.

But perhaps I'm old-school and a company takling 3-5% organic revenue and mid-single digit EPS growth on top of a safe 8% dividend yield is a shrinking buisness. At todays valuation they could reach the EPS growth target through buybacks alone with their cashflow after dividends because the deleveraging is completed and still pay a 8% dividend yield. But that is also an information you "accidently" forgot.
At least try to paint the whole picture and not just picking the negative numbers and forget the positive ones in an analysis. That is not honest.
U
I always appreciate a difference of opinion especially when based on data. I am nibbling here at where I am guessing is the bottom, I am comfortable with the value here and the dividend is nice to absorb while we wait and see. Tobacco is out of favor currently, much like energy was not to long ago!
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@UKplan Thanks for reading. I don't have permanent bias on any stock. When I think BTI is ready to bottom, I will certainly update my view too.
endless summer profile picture
Hunting, when a stock has fallen almost 25% over the year and the market is punishing it for the doubts in its sector, being a contrarian is not being bearish, but bullish. Just for your information.
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@endless summer Excuse me; I meant contrarian relative to the consensus bullish view of other Seeking Alpha authors and Wall St's view.
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Val126
Today, 10:59 AM
@Hunting Alpha Analysts have 100% accuracy with 2Y EPS forecast for BTI. You can be contrarian as like you want but you will burn like Liberian Capital with his figting against analysts covering Imperial Brands.

Give me a reason why analysts are wrong this time and why you are right. Otherwise we can only laught like we did about articles of Liberian Capital.

Hint Imperial delivered 30% annual gains for 3 years while he made bearish articles about Imperial every few months.
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You got a follower for getting this right. The sort of good news is I am basically even due to dividends however probably down 20% in opportunity loss. The basic problem for BTI is there PE is decreasing faster than their EPS is increasing. Typical value trap.
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@atlasman Thank you. I appreciate your support _/\_
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Val126
Today, 11:04 AM
@atlasman Value trap is a company with decreasing earnings over time. Company which double EPS in few years but share price is down like BTI is not a value trap. Its a value investing dream come to be true.

The basic problem is that you invest based on share price chart so you will be a mediocre investor like most.

What is the opportunity loss? Because stocks go up and down all the time so it makes no sence to say this crap. McKesson was down 4 years and lagged the market for 6 but who hold tight when share price was a liar than made 17% annual returns after all. Not you of course beacuse you invest based on share price charts not fundamentals. You sell companies which grow earnings and share price is dropping instead of buying more.
n
I will not sell bti. Great dividend machine. Mo is fantastic too. Loving bti, mo and pm.
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@nyle alexla Dividends are great no doubt. But is it worth net worth erosion?
n
@Hunting Alpha this is part of stock investing. I know bti lucrative business so that is market correction time. Love bti and thank you bti.
Noah Genda profile picture
@nyle alexla
You touch on a point that occurred to me while reading this article.
HA's arguments against BTI are applicable, for the most part, to all of Big Tobacco.
vvw profile picture
Good article. I'm in it for the dividend, and most likely will never sell. You've heard all this before. I don't like paper losses, but as long as that dividend is safe, I'm holding tight.
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@vvw Thank you. I understand the perspective of dividend investors. But if it comes at the cost of net worth erosion due to negative total shareholder returns, is it worth it? There are probably other, more attractive dividend opportunities out there...
Noah Genda profile picture
@Hunting Alpha
If you were to buy something today that paid a large safe dividend, what would you recommend?
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@Noah Genda
I like Blackstone: seekingalpha.com/...

Not as large a divvy yield, but I think it comes with outperformance over the S&P500.

And I have to say: it's not a recommendation (please see Seeking Alpha disclosure at end of article).
psgros profile picture
Finally someone who agrees with my thoughts.
Hunting Alpha profile picture
@psgros Most importantly, the market agrees!
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