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PDI: Still Bullish On This Nearly 14% Yielding CEF

Jul. 30, 2023 9:00 AM ETPIMCO Dynamic Income Fund (PDI)28 Comments
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Steven Fiorillo
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Summary

  • PDI is an income play for investors, with a focus on generating a continuous stream of income rather than capital appreciation.
  • PDI has generated consistent monthly distributable income for investors since its inception, offsetting any declines in share price.
  • PDI provides diversification through investments in various fixed-income sectors, offering opportunities that may not be accessible to individual investors.

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PIMCO Dynamic Income Fund (NYSE:PDI), as many Seeking Alpha Contributors have a neutral viewpoint on this CEF. I won't beat around the bush, this is an income play for me. I am not looking to beat the market, and

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I am focused on growth and dividend income. My personal strategy revolves around setting myself up for an easy retirement by creating a portfolio which focuses on compounding dividend income and growth. Dividends are an intricate part of my strategy as I have structured my portfolio to have monthly dividend income which grows through dividend reinvestment and yearly increases. Feel free to reach out to me on Seeking Alpha or https://dividendincomestreams.substack.com/

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Comments (28)

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The expense ratio seems high at 2.18%.
S
@TLaw13 It is high but the returns when reinvesting dividends are quite nice. High expense ratios on low income producing ETF’s that track an index are very bad. A higher expense on a fixed income fund with this type of 10-yr return is not a problem. It’s a psychological hurdle but not a financial one, imo. Again, this is an income play.
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usiah
Today, 10:44 AM
Bought years ago during low interest rates, so I'm underwater. But, as an income investor, I have no intention of selling.

Retired investor
Bob-in-DE profile picture
Let's allow some numbers to get in the way ....

CAGR for last 10 years for PDI is 7.88% and for the last 5 years is 1.03%. 14% may get you clicks but this isn't what the fund actually earns and what you should expect going forward.

5 years ago the price was 33+/- and now it's 19+/-. That 14% "distribution" you've been receiving was just you getting your own money back. The fund has been liquidating at a considerable rate in order to pay you.

Going forward, I would expect PDI to actually earn in the 5-6% range. In the long run that's all it can pay you. Anything above that will come out of NAV. The fund may still be distributing 14% but that will be 14% of a much smaller NAV (so the $ will be much less) and you will be looking at a $10 share price.
B
I've been in PDI since 2016 for income generation. Rather than watching the price I watch the discount to NAV to determine when to add more shares. Current premium to NAV is 9.82%. I never add unless it is below the 52 week average currently at 7.12% and really load up when the premium gets near 2% or lower.
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allday1234 profile picture
Yes I have $PDI 6804 and $PD) 3051 and I had PDI for a long time and was in positive territory before COVID..( I need an excuse ) however one can look at March of 2020 and see that what I am saying is the truth and I was around during the PKO / PCI Merger with PDO and so here i am with the number of shares that pays me $1500.82 monthly and PDO that pays me $390.22 monthly , and on occasion come December pays a great special ( not every year , but most ) you can look it up and of course the specials are not figured in as part of the yield. So I will continue to hold them, I am slightly ahead of my total cost considering the dividend I have been paid and will continue to hold them. I can of course reduce by cost basis by adding , but I am oK with what I have
For the newly investors, I consider it a money maker..

Allday
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Jennev98
Today, 10:10 AM
After reading several articles endorsing PDI, PTY and others last year, I took the plunge and started a full position in PDI and have been DRIPing the monthly distributions. This was my first income CEF and it took a little adjusting to wrap my mind around this. I trust the Pimco heritage and Rita’s and other’s opinion and I’m comfortable with my investment. I’m a retired income investor and primarily invest in higher paying dividend stocks and MLPs such as REITS, energy and BDCs. I recently added a couple regional banks paying in excess of 7 per cent. My goal was to put together a portfolio of investments that provide me with an income stream that exceed my expenses and I have more than achieved this goal. I see PDI as one of may spokes in this wheel.
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@Jennev98 Thanks for the comment
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Some SA authors seem concerned about the NII coverage within the Pimco suite of CEFs and are predicting payout cuts —some have beaten this drum for over a year like it’s imminent . What is your view on this? I own PDI-PDO and PFN and reinvest all distributions. In the red but I can see the monthly progress of the payouts cutting into the loss. And if the share prices stabilize I should be in the green within 12-15 months which is an eternity for some but not for me.
Income4ever aka Cyclenut profile picture
@Sane Man
They have been beating the cut drum since before the Pdi, Pci, Pko merger ....
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@Sane Man I am not concerned, many people speculate on a distribution cut, but its never discussed from PIMCO. I would rather go by what PIMCO is doing than what others are speculating.
p
I have held PDI for a few years. The declining NAV/share is worrisome, because it appears to be due to over-distributing, rather than declining asset prices, at least recently. Bond "spreads" have been decreasing, so bond prices have actually been going up in recent months, but PDI keeps drifting down. At some point they may have to cut the dividend to keep the downward spiral from accelerating.
Income4ever aka Cyclenut profile picture
@posane3
On the contrary, the chart shows after hitting a $17.23 bottom in May a gradually recovering share price....
PDI has no ROC in its distribution and folks have been warning of distribution cuts for years and they keep steaming along even issued significant YE supplements
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@posane3 We will see, so far a cut hasn't been in the cards
Sthatcher profile picture
Income investing doesn’t get the appreciation it deserves because it doesn’t provide that instant reward we’ve all come to expect. Smith Barney used to say “they make money the old fashioned way, they earn it “. Income investing earns it over time. PIMCO income funds are the very best at this and when an investor takes the time to revisit what they learned in Finance 101, they get the power of compounding. PDI, PTY,PDO are significant holdings of mine.
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@Sthatcher Instant gratification has changed the mindset of investing.
Income4ever aka Cyclenut profile picture
PDI is a fantastic fund that investors need to focus on acquisition price for outstanding results. Buying high will as the author states get you great monthly income but why buy high .......PDI at $20 or less is worth it
D
Wow, nice to see a writer understand PDI ,compound interest, and a free asset. Ty for your article, I can't agree more.
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@Dave Rauser Thanks for reading and commenting
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Do you think the decline is antipasti on of a dividend cut since dividends aren’t covered by income?
Income4ever aka Cyclenut profile picture
@wedge7
Pimco are wizards at using alternative strategies to cover its distribution, income is only part of that equation
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@wedge7 PIMCO has been down this road before and the distribution continues to get paid
Loophole69 profile picture
The operative sentence is "If I had started my investment when PDI went public........." I am long and I am in it for the income (I've owned it for 2) so while the income is good the chart for my holdings are ugly. Since I have reinvested for part of the time, if and when this comes back, it might look good and I may not show such big paper losses.
Steven Fiorillo profile picture
@Loophole69 Yes, as that's the data we have to go by
Loophole69 profile picture
@Steven Fiorillo - Well, no, not exactly. The real thing is that it depends on when you bought PDI. You picked a date far enough out whereby the dividends outweigh the paper loss. I bought mine 2 years ago. The dividends I have received are not close to the paper loss.
V
Great Synthesis. Agree 100%
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