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Apple: Playing Catch Up

Jul. 24, 2023 8:00 PM ETApple Inc. (AAPL)GOOG, GOOGL, MSFT22 Comments

Summary

  • Apple Inc. is quickly working on an AI chat product to compete in the suddenly hot generative AI category.
  • The tech giant is now playing catch-up against other tech giants in several key categories like AI chat and AR/VR devices.
  • Apple stock is incredibly expensive at 32x FY23 EPS targets even as Apple continues falling beyond in AI.
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A constant negative thesis with Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) these days is that it is a business behind on new product development. The latest news of the tech giant entering the generative artificial intelligence ("AI") race appears to be another

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Comments (22)

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pnd4pnd
Yesterday, 11:18 PM
once again all you so called "analysts" look at nothing other than iPhone sales. we have services, healthcare, AR, and eventually a car. we are in it for the long game, not the next day or few weeks. I've been in apple for 12 years now, regret every share I ever sold. maybe you can find a stock people might listen to you about. not this one!
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Yet another mis-placed commentary. Apple have no desire to be first or 2nd... They want to do projects and products right according to their own mission. Why rush into it when there is no clear idea what AI should be. If anyone have read this story from WSJ can tell you. It's not AI thats filtering its content. www.wsj.com/...

I am happy and glad Apple will take its time to work on all AI projects.
Stone Fox Capital profile picture
@michae1601
$AAPL is playing the old playbook that isn't as likely to work against $MSFT and $GOOG with massive leads in generative AI. Heck, they had the lead with Siri and that quickly disappeared.
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RJMC
Yesterday, 10:33 PM
WOW! I looked at your ratings history for AAPL and saw over fifty 🔴!! Eventually you will be right. Hang in there! I think once you hit 75 sell articles that will change the sentiment and momentum on AAPL.
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Dr Hoo
Yesterday, 10:37 PM
@RJMC Talk about a click whore
Stone Fox Capital profile picture
@RJMC
SFC was right for 10+ years and we've been very accurate on the business. The stock will soon follow the weak sales!
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rocketjs
Yesterday, 10:26 PM
On every new technology analysts say that Apple is late to the technology or that they aren’t creating anything new. And yet…and yet… they are the most valuable company in the world. They take their time, get it right, and then make the big $$$. This time will be no different.
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@rocketjs You are exactly correct!
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dollars48
Yesterday, 10:24 PM
No one ever got rich betting against Apple.
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honestjohn1
Yesterday, 10:12 PM
He seems to always discount that Apple customers are like a cult. More likely than not, when Apple does come out with the svcs mentioned, the Apple customers will probably drop a similar svc and replace it with the Apple svc.
Also, trying to justify using the P/E as a guide the past few years seems to have become folly.
deercreekvols profile picture
Not the best track record on $AAPL calls for the author as he has cranked out 64 articles over the last two years on this site.

25% Success Rate

-11.10% Average Return

What makes this article different than the last 63?
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@deercreekvols the author will be right eventually. Each reader can decide for themselves whether being right the 68th time is useful or not.

What is happening is this author is drowned in intellectual bias. They decided years ago that $150 was an inexcusable stretch, and since then they seek out and publish only information and opinions that support their pre-existing bias.

It’s the height of hubris to declare that the market is wrong for years on end because it hasn’t obeyed your assumptions for years on end.

And hubris aside and more importantly, it just isn’t useful.
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@deercreekvols i am surprised it is a 25% success rate.. how do you define that?
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@Valuestocks007

TipRanks ratings.
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The Doug Clinton estimates are amusing.

For my own part I view Generative AI as in its infancy. I’ve asked ChatGPT many questions about computer code which at least in principle should be a fairly static target. The answers roam from useful but wrong to useless and wrong. Most interestingly they’re unpredictable, more useful on Monday than Tuesday etc.

Stanford University recently reinforced that conclusion with their own research.

The sensible conclusion is that it’s really exciting but not yet consistent or accurate enough to be all that useful.

I personally don’t see what’s wrong with Apple joining the race but not releasing a product that’s quite exciting but unpredictably useful.
Russell Ziskey profile picture
The 10 year cumulative return for AAPL IS 1305%. I’m not sweating their short term AI & VR positioning. Their long term strategy of going deeper with existing customers and expanding the ecosystem of services is more interesting to me. Long since 2008.
BIZUN1973 profile picture
Like clockwork. Clockwork Orange, that is.
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dgreenberg
Yesterday, 8:14 PM
You haven’t found another job yet??
Glad I didn’t follow your advice over the last 6 months
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tomnice1085
Yesterday, 8:23 PM
@dgreenberg Agreed 👍
Who care about AI while Apple already included it in their ecosystem. They just use other naming systems instead of calling it Ai.
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Always, like your insight and opinions. .. I bought in 20, almost 3 yrs ago. $AAPL +70%! You’re Bearish even at an all time high? I fail to see the logic.
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@deadhead213 I could see trimming some profits and investing in something else but I’m up 759% since I bought $AAPL that’s a hard no.
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@BIZUN1973 I totally understand your logic. Lol
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