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Why Energy Transfer Stock Is My Largest Position

Jul. 16, 2023 8:00 AM ETEnergy Transfer LP (ET)AMLP, EPD, ET.PC, ET.PD, ET.PE, MPLX, MPLXP, PAA45 Comments

Summary

  • ET has been a huge winner for me since I bought it in late 2020.
  • That said, I believe it still has quite a ways to run.
  • I share three reasons why it is my largest position.
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Samuel is a Professional Engineer and Project Management Professional by training and holds a B.S. in Civil Engineering and Mathematics from the United States Military Academy at West Point and a Masters in Engineering from Texas A&M with a focus on Computational Engineering and Mathematics. He is a former Army officer, land development project engineer, and lead investment analyst at Sure Dividend.

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Comments (45)

Samuel Smith profile picture
Thank you for reading! What is your largest position right now?

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My largest position is ET and EPD is #3. ET seems to get stuck $13. I see tons of positive articles and no negative articles. What is holding is back to go beyond $13?
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ET 15.000. EPD 8.500. MMP 2.000. ARLP 5.000.
Some other investment short term notes CDs
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Sunoco: Does it move the needle much in ET's earnings, cash flow, etc.? My understanding is that the truckstop business is booming.
houtex profile picture
houtex
Today, 10:56 AM
@Larry Wrede
Depends how finely tuned your needle is. SUN is buried in the 11% of consolidated EBITDA with USAC and ET only owns a part of that. Cash flow doesn’t change to ET unless SUN increases its distribution.

Short answer: it’s very minor
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You walk the walk and talk the talk. Thank you for the article.
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Great article
ET is my largest holding EPD is my second MMP and then a ARLP
I believe management is in line with unit holders and I ET getting to 30 an EPD a little higher than that when people start to realize that these assets will not be going anyway and our cash cows
Tom850870 profile picture
"its 2023 expected DCF coverage ratio is 1.97x"

That's a nice exact number, except management did not give DCF or coverage guidance, it was expressed in (consolidated) EBITDA, a range with a midpoint of $13.25B. How do you get coverage out of that?
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if they expect to grow distributions 3-5% per year why would you expect the stock price do better than that?
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Samuel, excellent article. Love ET (largest non-bond holding). Would you consider an article on midstream / energy bond opportunities? Thank you...
grbbiker profile picture
Agreed on ET, management is partly different, and that ET looks better than MPLX, PAGP, EPD, etc., but for risk concerns at age 78 I also hold those pipelines and others. I'd buy more ET and up its percentage of my investments, but humorously most of my capital is in IRAs, and I'm already too MLP heavy in those IRAs and have to reduce the MPLs over time using the UBTI annual credit. But your thinking makes me consider selling other non-IRA holdings to buy more ET.....Oh, to be wealthier outside of IRAs ;-). GLTA
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rhurry
Today, 9:44 AM
@Samuel Smith Like you ET is my largest position by far. Some units started out as ETP so it has been 10 years or so. It's been an interesting, lol, experience but I never sold a unit and in March of 2020 I loaded up. I don't buy Au, I buy black gold...aka fossil energy and sleep well. I have 60% of the portfolio in energy C-corps and mlp's which easily funds our retirement without selling anything. In your lifetime the energy landscape will see significant change but not in mine. I'll leave it to my children, at a step up basis, to adjust as the situation evolves. In my mind ET is now a SWAN. Say what you want about KW but he did what he set out to do. Glta
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ET and EPD 15% each for 20 years.. CQP for 14 years… 10 %..
Real estate REITS 20 %… 40 % trading stocks.. retired in my40s and never looked back…
Never paid income tax and never will … MLPs are not trades…long term owns..
showmethefacts profile picture
My largest holding by far is a Schwab money market fund paying 5.09%. Kelcy Warren can’t crash that investment with a debt-fueled acquisition. He’s still Exec Chairman and is not to be trusted. Three years is not that long ago!

That said, ET is my 5th largest holding after EPD, USAC (which ET has a large stake in but so far allows good management to run independently) and KO.

I, too, like how the current ET management below KW has restored the distribution and begun to reduce debt. The asset base is the most impressive in the field. The distribution is meaningfully higher than EPD’s and triple that of KO (but ET slashed its distribution in 2020, whereas KO has raised its dividend for 61 consecutive years!). If the KW risk could be removed through a real retirement and true handing over of the reins, I think the unit price would soar. Until that day, the market is likely to remain cautious if not skeptical.

I agree a debt upgrade would spur more confidence but I wonder if the rating bureaus also figure in the KW factor even if raw numbers show debt reduction.

I am cautiously hopeful that KW will stay on his ranch and the partnership will continue on the path it has pursued the past three years.
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If us oil and gas production is peaking soon, this is toast
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The amount of cheerleading for this stock is insane. 100% bullish articles? Best indication that it’s going to tank. Just like $T
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So, if I have this right, ET cut their dividend in half a few years ago, still have essentially the same management in place who go them into that position, now, as the energy market improved, they have earned the right to management my largest holding. I must be missing something in all this??
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@fta1 exactly. Debt has NOT been paid down hand over fist
grbbiker profile picture
@Invest5life Sure, that "hand over fist" phrase was a bit strong, but the trend is clear and continuing
bill h illify profile picture
@fta1
However, the distribution has been re-established to its pre 2020 levels and is now being increased every quarter. So, yeah, that was missing.
Blobfish profile picture
Excellent article. Thank you. ET is my second largest position. (ABR is in first). I budgeted adding more ET when payday hits at the end of the month. Would like your thoughts on the Lake Charles permit denial and the financial impact. Thanks.
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Et my largest position with paa coming in second for a good portion of my portfolio . Both have great dividend coverage and both are paying down debt with paa paying it down the most of any pipeline . Both are increasing their dividend with paa setting pipeline dividend increase records !!!
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crrh
Today, 8:58 AM
I stay approximately equally weighted in ET, EPD. And MPLX and together they are by far my largest position. I have done well writing calls on MPLX.
amiculus profile picture
@crrh I hold the same three MLPs, although significantly more MPLX than EPD and ET.
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bdwg
Today, 8:44 AM
ET is also my largest position by far. Was adding every time it dropped into the nines and tens.
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Clear and concise piece. Agree with your three points. What are the biggest risks to your thesis? How does Lake Charles factor in? Long ET, EPD and MPLX since 2009. Also long KNTK.
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