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Lose Money Slowly With SCHD ETF

Summary

  • Dividend Growth investing made sense for retirees when short-duration bonds yielded next to nothing and valuations were reasonable.
  • SCHD does a good job selecting higher-quality, higher-yielding businesses in which to invest, but the entire universe of these stocks is now overvalued.
  • SCHD's current yield is considerably lower than U.S. Treasuries, it has very slow growth prospects and considerable price risk in the event of a recession.
  • Retirees can now get safe 5% yields in short-term U.S. Treasuries, and that appears to be a much better alternative, given the high prices of SCHD's universe of stocks.
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Comments (23)

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I would propose that most hold this in a combination of things to get to that SWAN place with their portfolios. In other words, this is sort of a "bedrock" holding. Doesn't make sense to go jumping in and out when everything is not perfectly aligned. At some point rates will starting coming down.
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I’m not sure that arguing against a 317% 10 yr return is persuasive. I’ll stick with SCHD. In order to SWAN.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@WhitneyB As I tried my best to explain if everyone is betting on the same horse in the race, even if it wins, the returns won't be good. Now, maybe in some cases, earnings could grow into the valuation, but the earnings of most of these businesses are essentially flat.
The Dividend Dude profile picture
This stock was a seekingalpha darling up until 2022 when everyone seemingly changed their mind on it. I’ll continue to hold and DRIP.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@The Dividend Dude Thanks for the comment. I SCHD didn't really become a darling until after the pandemic, when a lot of investors buying high-yield stocks got hurt. Then many of them noticed that SCHD had a pretty good investing formula and still had a decent yield, that's when SCHD became popular. But now so many are after the same types of stocks, there isn't much for SCHD to buy that's undervalued anymore.
Add in rising interest rates on short-term debt, and some are starting to see the appeal of the safer (and higher) yield. But I think this will be an ongoing process.
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The yield curve is inverted. That 5% on T-Bills versus 3.85% on 10-year Treasuries will correct itself sooner than later and as the yield curve normalizes the rates will be in the reverse. The key is to hold dry powder using T-Bills, look at ETF BIL current yield of 4.85%. If we get a market correction, and I believe it will be 20% or more, buy SCHD in the mid to low $60s and don't look back.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@A812380 I think that's a reasonable strategy.
D
Interesting data on the PEG ratio.
Thanks for the article.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@Darren Dawson Thanks for reading and commenting. I calculate the earnings growth rates myself to take into account buybacks and down years. Just read any of my articles on the stocks in this article and I explain the process.
In the end, the main reason SCHD currently had a much higher yield than SPY is most of the higher yielding businesses have no growth. the PEG helps show that.
ron3637 profile picture
Here is my 2 cents probably what it's worth. I see sentiment going into a risk off mode. SCHD fits the bill. Holds few high flyers. If there are some bad earnings then all bets are off. That is why I am holding it, and it's stood up pretty well over all. Also, rates are expected to go down and investors will be positioning themselves in front of that. That's it.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@ron3637 Thanks for the comment. You might be generally right when it comes to the staples stocks. But, I think what has happened is the market is already positioned there, which is part of the reason the valuations are high. If you look at a hedge fund like Bridgewater's holdings, they are at least partly positioned that way. I don't think they plan to hold these staples long term, but if they feel they need to have a certain amount in equities, they are kind of hiding out there.
I actually feel the same about some of mega tech, too. Once debt is taken into account, they are actually cheaper than the staples, so I view their recent run-up at least partially as investors getting defensive.
It's very interesting to watch.
c
Hi, thanks for the article, I appreciate the point of view.

As a retiree, for me, balance and diversification is everything.

In the “cash” portion of my portfolio, about 35% of total, I ladder T-bills; it’s not hard to get 5.25% yields. But I plan to keep my SCHD holding. It’s a longer term hold for me, a much smaller portion of my portfolio than what I have in T-bills.

Cory, I’ve enjoyed your stuff. At least you’re not recommending dumping SCHD for a 10 year T-note yielding 4%.

Best of luck to all.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@chicagotim1 Thanks :)
I'm about 45% TFLO right now, but I am picking up a stock here or there if they look attractive.
Having that optionality I think is going to be really important. I view our current state as a sort of "fragile stagflation". We might very well muddle along, giving businesses some time to adjust to a tighter labor market and less globalization, and in that case, the market will do okay. But I think we are going to be in a fragile state as higher interest rates, student loan repayments, no government stimulus, and tricky geopolitics continues. So, really at any time the economy could crack, and the bear market could resume. I am more than happy to collect 5% on part of my portfolio while getting more aggressive with the rest and aiming for long-term growth.
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And also, aren't SCHD's dividends qualified? "Safer" alternatives may not be. This matters, if you're holding it in a taxable account.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@Pat Nicometo Each person's situation would be different. T-bills aren't subject to state and local tax, so that might be appealing for some.
Wayne51 profile picture
I have absolutely no desire to sell my SCHD holdings. While I might get a better current yield from other investments, I prefer a dividend growth strategy. SCHD is just one of a couple of ETFs I own. The 5-year dividend growth rate is more than satisfactory.
Cory Cramer profile picture
@Wayne51 Thanks for the comment, and best of luck.
R
Sorry Cory,

You could not be more wrong about SCHD.
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@Ron1634 Because...? (I'm long SCHD, so I'd love to see your reasoning. Simply denying the author's argument is not itself a reasoned argument.)
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@Ron1634 is he wrong because his analysis is flawed or because you don’t like what he is saying?
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@MMShaw Well, some of us have MADE money(and lots) over the last 10 years of holding it such as myself, and I expect that will continue unless I am proved wrong which at this point I really doubt will happen. The track record has been solid....and my 4,500 shares say so.
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