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Disney: Subscriber Exodus Is A Real Problem

Jun. 22, 2023 5:50 PM ETThe Walt Disney Company (DIS)14 Comments
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Summary

  • Disney is experiencing subscriber losses, leading to a downgrade in my rating from buy to hold.
  • The company faces profitability headwinds in its direct-to-consumer business due to the slowing subscriber growth. In the last quarter, Disney+ lost a massive 4M subscribers.
  • The subscriber loss in FQ2'23 followed a loss of 2.4M Disney+ subscribers in the first quarter.
  • Disney's valuation has dropped compared to streaming rivals, and I believe shares face an uncertain future unless Disney reverses its subscriber momentum.
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Because of subscriber losses suffered by streaming company The Walt Disney Company's (NYSE:DIS) in the last two quarters, I am forced to lower my rating for Disney's stock from buy to hold. Disney has seen a rather steep drop

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Comments (14)

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shpt
Yesterday, 10:46 PM
That this article on sub losses never once mentions the average revenue per sub, especially in India, makes it less than useless. Come on SA, why do you put up poorly researched articles like this?
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shpt
Yesterday, 10:43 PM
The sub losses are all in India so it has nothing to do with anything but the loss of cricket in that country.
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KevinKj
Yesterday, 11:07 PM
@shpt Losses are are huge issue for Disney and are not specific to India. Read their quarterly report, the company is in clear trouble.

Streaming Numbers from April 1,2023, December 31,2022, April 2, 2022 in order:
Domestic (U.S. and Canada) standalone: 57.0, 58.5, 61.6 (million)
Domestic (U.S.and Canada) multi-product 21.4, 20.8, 17.0 (million)
Domestic Total: 78.4, 79.3, 78.6 (million)

International standalone: 102.5, 107.0, 89.3
International multi-product 111.5, 115.2, 93.3
Total 189.9, 194.4, 171.9

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For DIS+ Domestic Standalone it lost 1.5M users QoQ and 4.6M users YoY.

Disney hasn't even lost the Hotstar international users who are there for cricket yet, as the rights haven't yet expired. Once they do, you expect them to lose 40 - 50M ish, overnight.

The Disney issue is widespread too. Example, as of the end of last quarter--
Theatrical: 767MM USD revenue thanks to Avatar. Up like 300% YoY but Operating income: 50 million USD loss. (How could this happen??)

Disney just wrote off 2Billion in worthless content created in the last 12-18 months. The content was worth more to the company as a $600MM tax write-off than what they could have earned keeping it, using it, licensing it for years to come.

DIS will never make a profit on a movie again unless it can stop its hard left turn and cut operating and budget costs. Elemental and Mermaid is clear evidence of this.

Disney is being forced to buy Hulu (Bob has to spin it as positive) and doesn't have the money to do it so they have to fire 7,000+ employees to reallocate cash and will probably have to sell IP.

Let's see how it goes, but until Disney can shed Iger and his ultra political board more pain is to come.
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John_III_XVI
Yesterday, 10:32 PM
Parents do NOT want their kids groomed by watching Mickey stick his tongue down Goofy's throat or hearing mermaids talk about sex changes. Bud Lite proves just how out of touch woke big business & both political parties are out of touch with the majority of Americans. They will not hesitate to vote with their dollars & in future elections. Caveat emptor. ;>(
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Mr Nobodi
Yesterday, 9:36 PM
This is what happens when a company becomes overly promotional. Not All those free and big discount subscribers were always going to stay. And why investors need to look at a whole lot more than just subscriber growth.

That said, investors also need to realize that the churn is largely the result of those promotions. The market over reacts in both directions.
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kpmedia
Yesterday, 8:16 PM
Articles that keep talking about India losses are trash articles. DIS rightfully does not care to spend billions on cricket, to make 65 or so cents in sub. Old news, move on.
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KevinKj
Yesterday, 11:15 PM
@kpmedia As of their last earnings, Disney Plus domestic standalone it lost 1.5M users QoQ and 4.6M users YoY. I expect more domestic losses to be reported in their next earnings too.
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Sjwmba77
Yesterday, 8:12 PM
They need to stop grooming kids through their cartoons as well as pushing leftist ideology for the same reason. Just make fun stories people enjoy without the damn agenda.
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braticus
Yesterday, 7:00 PM
They haven't had an in-house, unique, creative product in decades. Just poorly rehashed old IPs. Their main focus is ideology. It's no wonder they're hemorrhaging subs.
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I just came to watch the flood of bitter old people come and complain about “woke” this and that and about mermaids now being black.
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Kevin Kevin
Yesterday, 10:22 PM
@Tandra87 Parents with kids are those who are angry with Disney grooming their children, not "Old People".
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buckiowa
Yesterday, 10:43 PM
@Tandra87 I like to see the bag holders defend Disney , after losing thousands!
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Tandra87
Yesterday, 10:51 PM
@Kevin Kevin If parents are truly worried about their kids seeing a black mermaid or a gay character in a movie, then I'm more concerned with the parents and what their world view must look like. And if they think that seeing our multifaceted society reflected on the big screen is "grooming", then wow.
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porbit28
Yesterday, 6:15 PM
The subscriber decreases parallel the Bud Lite sales fiasco. Parks may be full but uniqueness buoys them; and all the park success hasn't stopped DIS stock from dropping below $90/sh - from $170. The Elemental flop is symptomatic of the problem. Streaming/movie viewing is more akin to buying a beer: it's a small purchase with easy to get alternatives. The media likes to report that boycotts have little or no effect. Maybe. But if adding subcribers/viewers is the big key to DIS profitability , paying more attention to content and complaints is the first step. People vote with their wallets as well as in the voting booth. Shareholders don't have limitless patience.
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