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Intel Updates Its Opportunistic Foundry Model

Jun. 22, 2023 2:30 PM ETIntel Corporation (INTC)AMD, NVDA7 Comments

Summary

  • Intel's disclosures during the Internal Foundry Model Investor Webinar suggest that the Company is doing what it needs to do to make the fabs and business units competitive.
  • However, the business model does not inspire confidence that Intel will be a leading-edge foundry anytime in the near future - and understandably so.
  • Intel management is destroying considerable shareholder value by delaying and not even talking about the fab spin-off.
  • This idea was discussed in more depth with members of my private investing community, Beyond The Hype. Learn More »

Intel Expected To Post Favorable Earnings

Justin Sullivan

Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) gave more details about its foundry model transition in a webinar today. At the root of it, the difference between IDM1.0 and IDM2.0 is that Intel will run the foundry operations as a separate P&L and will

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Comments (7)

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Intel is ready to spin off the fabs, more long term losses are coming as their fabs can no longer justify their existence under Intel. Too far behind in process tech and too high in cost. They’ll be sold for Pennies on the $ in the future.
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This is bound to fail on so many levels. First and foremost is that if INTC wants to be a world class foundry and compete head on with TSM, they must first relinquish their strategic advantage to latest process tech. This foundry "hand me down" process tech is by nature low margin.

I worked in management, R and D about 20 years back at Intel. I saw the late 90s version of these slides and they were summarily rejected. At that time, no way would Intel have considered anything other than domination of key market segments that drove high end, high margin silicon sales. Cutting edge manufacturing and process tech were the keys to success. Pat Gelsinger was in the thick of this with development of the cloud server platform back in the 90ss

What's wrong with this model today? Answer: Absolutely Nothing. Consider NVidia's envious position in AI computing. They succeeded because their foundry TSM brought cutting edge process tech and manufacturing to the table and they forecast and pursued this now golden market segment.

Personally, I believe foundry business is a desperation move, in the wake of multiple critical ball drops in process tech over the past 10 years. Additionally, the Intel that I knew would have accurately predicted the AI computing wave ages ago and be the undisputed AI computing leader today.
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@HandyManDan It is easy to blame Intel and Intel has done a ton of things wrong for a long time now but what is happening at Intel is not that abnormal. Innovators dilemma explains much of the malaise.
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Remember, the foundry business is a marathon not a sprint. We covered this in great detail: semiwiki.com/...

There is also a detailed discussion amongst semiconductor professionals here:
semiwiki.com/...

Bottom line: Intel is now the #2 foundry in the world, absolutely.
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@SemiWiki.com
"the foundry business is a marathon not a sprint"
Not a good comparison. The question is "so what?". The leader keeps pulling away and the second rank keeps falling further behind. The longer the run, the farther behind the loser gets.
"Intel is now the #2 foundry in the world, absolutely."
Technical argument. The real measure of the foundry business is the non-IDM business. On that measure, Intel is nowhere.
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@SemiWiki.com # 2 foundry by what metric exactly ? For someone who claims to understand the fabless business model and foundry business , that’s a very questionable comment to make. What is IFS revenue for non Intel chips when compared with TSMC, Samsung Foundry, GF, UMC , etc …. ?? If you are saying that Intel is a customer of IFS and that’s # 2 based on revenue of Intel ? Or is this a process tech classification that you give as #2?
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Today, 4:33 PM
@EnerTuition - (1) not everything chip-related is about AI and the leading edge. There are tons of uses for all varieties of chips, starting with standard household appliances, to auto industry uses, to defense contractors, to cloud gaming; etc. and so on. Eventually price and scope are going to have a reckoning. (2) Intel is putting its size to great use in developing fabs throughout the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East. India is even trying to get a fab from Intel. This is important given the political and military considerations currently playing out in Russia, China, Korea, and Taiwan. There's a reason people really worry about Samsung and TSMC, leaving Intel as the safe, reliable supplier, if a bit behind on technology.

Intel has been run shoddily for probably a decade, if not more, relying on its size and market domination to stay ahead of the pack. Those days are crashing around it, but they haven't crashed all together. Intel is still a behemoth, with its fingers in a lot of pots. They just need a leader with foresight to determine what pots will be the next big things. Foundries simply buy Intel time and provide a base by which to attain or share tech leadership with the young guns over the long haul.
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