Super Mario Bros. Wonder looks like a traditional 2D side-scrolling platformer with a few important twists, one of which is a new Wonder Flower that fills the world with trippy effects. When Mario grabs it, he says “wonder.” But does he say it how Martinet would say it? Some fans aren’t so sure:

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Even Mario just grabbing a mushroom power-up and saying “ha-ha!” is throwing people off.

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Martinet also does the voice of Wario, but some fans are also skeptical that he voiced the newest lines in WarioWare: Turn It! Here’s Mario’s rival saying “excellent”:

It seems like one of two things is going on here. Either Nintendo quietly and unceremoniously ditched one of the most popular voices behind one of the most popular characters in gaming, or it’s been so long since Martinet has had to record new lines that people just forgot what it was like to hear him say other stuff.

“Nintendo has been more or less recycling the same clips of Charles Martinet for years now,” tweeted DrAwesome_x. “It’s beyond hilarious that because we’re all so used to the same shit, when he finally does record new lines, people seriously think it’s a new guy entirely LMAO.” Another person suggested it was just Martinet getting older. “I don’t think they recast Charles Martinet here,” tweeted ilikprimus. “I love him but maybe, just maybe, he’s getting old and that’s why Mario sounds slightly off.”

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Other fans came out of today’s Nintendo Direct unconvinced somethough truly foul was afoot. “The amount of people not speaking up about Charles Martinet’s absence, or catching these knockoff voices is very upsetting,” tweeted MZpaul. “His cameo sounded great in the movie and he’s still actively [voice acting]. He doesn’t deserve to be tossed aside as something so disposable, just real sad.”

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There are a couple of other possibilities. Maybe Martinet was simply unavailable for the dates needed to record the handful of lines in the new games, or maybe he recorded them remotely and then sent the recordings via copper wire across the Pacific Ocean like a 1920s telegraph. It’s been months since Martinet tweeted anything new. Hopefully all will be revealed soon.

Martinet and Nintendo did not immediately respond to requests for comment.