Bowlero Corp. (BOWL) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Bowlero Corp. (NYSE:BOWL) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call May 17, 2023 4:30 PM ET

Company Participants

Ashley DeSimone - ICR, IR

Thomas Shannon - Chairman & CEO

Brett Parker - President & CFO

Conference Call Participants

Matthew Boss - JPMorgan

Jeremy Hamblin - Craig-Hallum Capital Group

Randy Konik - Jefferies

Ian Zaffino - Oppenheimer

Steven Wieczynski - Stifel

Jason Tilchan - Canaccord Genuity

Eric Handler - MKM Partners

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Bowlero Corp. Third Quarter 2023 Conference Call.

It is now my pleasure to hand over the call to Ashley DeSimone of ICR.

Ashley DeSimone

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bowlero Corp. third quarter fiscal 2023 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. During this call, the company may make certain statements that constitute forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Such statements reflect the company's views with respect to future events as of today and are based on our management's current expectations, estimates, forecasts, projections, assumptions, beliefs and information.

These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that can cause actual events and results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. For further details concerning these risks and uncertainties, please see our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC on September 15, 2022, as well as other fillings that the company will make or have made with the SEC such as quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and current reports on Form 8-K.

The company expressly disclaims any obligation to publicly update or review any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future developments or otherwise, except as required by law. In addition, during today's call, the company will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe could be useful in evaluating performance. Definitions and reconciliations for non-GAAP measures can be found in the earnings press release. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to Thomas Shannon of Bowlero Corp. Please go ahead.

Thomas Shannon

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Bowlero Corp. earnings discussion for Q3 of fiscal 2023. Thank you for participating in today's conference call. I am Thomas Shannon, Founder, Chairman and CEO of Bowlero Corp. I'm joined by Brett Parker, Vice Chairman and President; and Bobby Lavan, who recently joined as Chief Financial Officer Designate.

Bobby, who will be the company's CFO as of tomorrow, brings extensive experience as a public company CFO and is a natural fit with our team and culture. We're thrilled to welcome him to the Bowlero family.

During today's prepared remarks, we'll cover several topics as we have many exciting updates to share. Starting with our financial performance in the quarter and several important balance sheet optimization transactions we have completed as we continue to focus on ways to create and deliver shareholder value.

Beginning with the financial highlights, I am happy to report that we had by far the largest quarter in our nearly three decade history, with revenues reaching $316 million and adjusted EBITDA reaching $128 million, equating to a 40.4% margin for the quarter. Year-over-year revenue growth was 22% and relative to pre-pandemic, revenue was higher by 54%. This revenue growth was driven by a healthy combination of same-store sales growth and contributions from acquired and newly opened centers.

With same-store sales increasing 17% year-over-year, and 30% versus pre-pandemic. In addition to continued strong demand across our various business lines, which are walk-in-retail, leagues, and events. This new high watermark remains a testament to our operating ethos. We prioritize consistent execution across all levels of the organization. These results reflect the output of our team's efforts, our proprietary technology and the fundamental strength of our business model.

Overall, Bowlero’s trajectory is shaped by our ability to generate consistence same-store sales growth. Our ABC growth strategy, which includes acquisitions, new builds and conversions, our proprietary technology, and world-class team and our dedication to continued innovations and excellence in execution. We pioneered upscale experiential bowling (4:34), introduced technology and disciplined operational execution to a highly fragmented industry and continue to focus on the next frontier of the customer experience, as exemplified through strategic innovation such as MoneyBowl, which has now been activated in 64 centers or about 20% of our portfolio.

Total downloads are over 60,000. Moreover, the free to play version is expected to launch in our current fiscal quarter, which will further or reach across the nation and increase access to this differentiated gamified bowling experience. We appreciate your continued trust in our team and support of our proven strategy. And we're excited to take Bowlero to new heights.

With that, I would like to hand it off to Brett Parker to lead the balance of the discussion.

Brett Parker

Thank you, and good evening, everyone. As Thomas mentioned, we are happy to report a number of extremely positive developments. We had our strongest performing quarter ever. In the third quarter of fiscal year 2023, historically, our seasonally most significant quarter Bowlero generated revenues of $316 million and record adjusted EBITDA of $128 million with a 40.4% adjusted EBITDA margin.

This translated into $118 million of adjusted cash from operating activities. Compared to the prior year's Q3, revenue grew $58 million or 22% and adjusted EBITDA expanded by $19 million or 18%. Compared to pre-pandemic, revenue was higher by $111 million or 54% and adjusted EBITDA expanded by $60 million or 89%.

Net loss for the quarter was $32 million. However, adjusted for a non-cash expense related to the value of earnout shares, adjusted net income was $55 million. We had a highly cash flow generative quarter and we redeployed much of the operating cash flow across our multi-pronged reinvestment strategy to continue to fuel future growth.

On a trailing 12-month basis, revenue grew to $1.1 million and adjusted EBITDA reached $372 million at a 34.2% margin. TTM revenue grew $284 million or 35% compared to the prior year TTM period. From a center fleet perspective, we have remained active with respect to acquisitions, new builds and conversions.

We added one new center in the third quarter and two additional centers subsequent to the end of the third quarter, bringing our current center count to 329. We also have definitive purchase agreements to acquire two additional centers in the fourth quarter. Two new builds are currently under construction and are expected to open this calendar year.

Since the start of fiscal 2022, we have added 44 new centers to our portfolio. The majority of which came with owned real estate, which provides long-term optionality for us to raise capital through sale leaseback transactions or traditional mortgages. There are currently more than 35 conversion projects underway.

Overall, our pipeline remains robust, with ample opportunity to further grow inorganically as well as organically with our same-store sales growth algorithm serving as the central ingredient in our success.

Reflecting upon our robust financial performance in 3Q, in each of the prior two quarters, the level of demand we saw in the business were sustained in the first month of the subsequent quarter and looking ahead to our fiscal fourth quarter, this dynamic remains intact, particularly relative to pre-pandemic levels.

Since the beginning of calendar year 2022, we have been sharing the growth over pre-pandemic chart to provide a snapshot into how the business was performing in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. After this quarter, we will no longer provide a forward-looking view of operating performance relative to pre-pandemic periods, as its relevance decreased given the time that has elapsed.

Nevertheless, despite macro headwinds such as continued inflation and rising interest rates, center level revenue continues to perform 50% or higher versus pre-pandemic levels and same-store sales growth has been strong. While the results are preliminary, the revenue in the most recent 13 week period ending May 7, grew an impressive 53% compared to pre-pandemic.

As we have stated previously, we expect that the year-over-year comparable performance will naturally become less pronounced as we begin comping over the surge in demand in the latter half of the third fiscal quarter and all of the fourth quarter of last year as the COVID-19 Omicron wave subsided.

On that note, I would like to briefly talk about our fiscal fourth quarter and items that will affect year-over-year comparability. As a reminder, revenue in the fourth quarter last fiscal year benefited from two factors. One, there was a 53-week in our fiscal 2023 calendar that added an estimated $15 million in revenue.

And two, a change in the accounting methodology for service fee revenue, which resulted in a net positive impact of $9 million in the fourth quarter. For context, the service fee revenue is an 18% gratuity charged on all F&B related revenue, all of which is paid to our servers and bartenders. Adjusting last year's fourth quarter revenue figure for the 53-week and the service fee revenue recognition impact in the fourth quarter, the comparable baseline revenue for Q4 of fiscal '22 is $244 million.

Turning to our center level economics. The heart of our operation and our overall financial profile. We continue to see robust year-over-year growth and performance well above pre-pandemic levels and prior year. Total bowling center level revenue increased $57 million or 23% over the comparable prior year period, with walk-in-retail growing $31 million or 17% and group events up $20 million or 49%.

This strong top line growth translated into a significant increase in adjusted center EBITDA, which jumped 20% year-over-year and an impressive 73% over the pre-pandemic period reaching $149 million. Our 48% adjusted center EBITDA margin decreased 103 basis points versus prior year. However, it increased 444 basis points compared to the comparable pre-pandemic period.

Adjusted EBITDA in the prior year benefited from a $7.5 million rent concession related to COVID-19 and staffing shortages, which coincided with the surge in demand in the latter half of the quarter. Normalized for the prior year rent credit, adjusted EBITDA expanded by 25% year-over-year and adjusted center EBITDA margin expanded 103 basis points.

On a consolidated basis, adjusted EBITDA margin was 40.4%, which surged almost 756 basis points above the comparable pre-pandemic metrics, despite well documented input cost inflation. Relative to the prior year, adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 128 basis points when adjusted for the aforementioned $7.5 million rent credit. This margin level exemplifies the benefits of operating leverage inherent in the business at both the individual center and overall portfolio levels. This leverage is largely a function of portfolio wide 50% variable contribution margins across our revenue stream.

From a cash flow perspective, in the third quarter of fiscal 2023, we generated $118 million in adjusted cash from operations versus $103 million in the comparable prior year period. Consistent with our history, we redeployed much of this cash flow across our portfolio to self-fund center acquisitions, new builds and existing center upgrades and renovations. The company finished the quarter with robust liquidity underpinned by over $150 million in cash on the balance sheet and roughly $190 million of undrawn capacity on our revolving credit facility.

Now let's discuss several noteworthy capital markets updates. As you may recall, in February, we amended and extended our term loan B through February of 2028 with $900 million of notional principal. We have now hedged $800 million of the loan or nearly 90% of the total by locking in our floating rate one-month term SOFR exposure into a defined band of approximately 94 basis points to 550 basis points through March 31, 2026.

It cost us zero dollar in upfront premium to achieve this protection as we utilize a cashless collar to contain interest rate risk without paying a premium to do so. As of April 2, 2023, the effective interest rate on the term loan B was 8.3%. We are very pleased with this outcome, particularly given that we have tapped our annual interest rate expense on the term loan B at 9%, which compares to the 30%-plus returns we generate across our multi-pronged reinvestment strategy I referenced moments ago.

Further, and also salient to the capital structure discussion, we have completed the buyback of 32% of our convertible preferred shares for $81 million in two separate transactions, $74 million of which occurred subsequent to quarter end. We funded these buybacks with cash on hand. Pro forma for these transactions, approximately $136 million of the $200 million notional principal remains outstanding.

Importantly, these two transactions reduce the potential impact a fully diluted share count by 5.2 million shares as measured on an as-converted basis. We have also been active in returning capital to common shareholder via share buybacks. This calendar year through May 15th, we have repurchased 2.4 million Class A common shares for $34 million or an average price of $14.19 per share. Since the inception of the program, we have bought back $82 million of stock equating to roughly 7 million shares for an average of $11.85 per share. In continued support of this reinvestment strategy, on May 16, 2023, the company's Board of Directors authorized an increase to our share buyback to $200 million.

Lastly, it is worth noting that the first tranche of earnout shares were earned on March 2. As a result, there is only one remaining tranche of earnout shares that vest at 17.50. The combination of these various share related transactions has resulted in a net reduction in our fully diluted share count by nearly 8.7 million shares since our first full quarter as a public company, despite the 4.3 million common shares issued as part of the warrant redemption, which completed in May 2022. As you can see in the chart and the table, we have consistently reduced the fully diluted share count since coming public in December of 2021.

In closing, to recap a quarter with many substantial positive highlights, we've set a new high watermark in terms of financial performance with record revenue of $316 million, adjusted EBITDA of $128 million and adjusted EBITDA margin of 40.4%. We continue to simplify our capital structure by retiring nearly one-third of the convertible preferred for $81 million and reducing our fully diluted share count by approximately 8.7 million shares or 4%. We successfully executed to hedge on roughly 90% of the notional principal of our $900 million term loan B and it cost us zero dollar and upfront premium to ensure this risk.

And finally, we augmented our management team with the addition of Bobby Lavan as our CFO. You must say, it was a very exciting quarter on multiple fronts and we remain active in finding ways to deliver value to our shareholders. As Thomas highlighted, we remain enthusiastic about our growth trajectory despite some of the near term macro dynamics that we discussed.

Thank you for your time, and we all look forward to presenting next quarter. We'll now begin a brief Q&A led by our Chairman, Founder, and CEO, Thomas Shannon. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Matthew Boss with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Boss

Thanks, and congrats on a nice quarter.

Thomas Shannon

Thanks, Matt.

Brett Parker

Thanks, Matt.

Matthew Boss

So Tom, maybe could you speak to overall demand trends or the progression of traffic that you saw in the third quarter, maybe more recently in April and May. And have you seen any notable changes in demand between group events relative to walk-in-retail?

Thomas Shannon

Well, there has been a slowing. There's no doubt. So as the quarter progressed, the comps slowed. We saw that in the -- in April, but it seems to be flattening now. So we were coming off of maybe the biggest sugar high in history a year ago with all the money flowing through the system. And I think probably more importantly for our business, a lot of people not back at work, kids not back at school. And so you had this unparalleled combination of a huge amount of idle time and a lot of money.

I think we'll resume growth, but I think we -- there needed to be a pause because it's been 2.5 years of double-digit growth and obviously, that's not really sustainable for any business. So I'm not concerned about it. I think it's probably, it was inevitable at some point. We did see it. We see the slowdown more pronounced in California, which was also the market that came back the most strong. So again, just sort of a return to normalization. And yes, probably more so on the event side than on the retail side. But the trends I'm seeing now are sort of more of a return to stability or positive growth. But we did notice it for the first time since 2020 in the last two or three months.

Matthew Boss

Great. And then maybe just a follow-up as we think about moving into next year FY 2024. How best to think about some of the underlying drivers of same-store sales growth, your pricing power, some of your upgraded offerings, as we think about the sustainable underlying drivers of comps?

Thomas Shannon

We have a lot of centers that are either being renovated, they're getting arcades for the first time, they're getting in some cases bars, kitchens that they didn't have. So we've done a lot of acquisitions over time, but it takes a while for those facilities to become renovated and then they contribute more. So that's one tailwind we have. The second is, we continue to optimize things like pricing and packages, and other things that I think will continue to give us the ability to increase the revenue that we're able to get per guest visit.

And then lastly, we have a very robust acquisition pipeline. So I think between the renovations, acquisitions to come, the new builds, just sort of the flow of the underlying business, I think all the trends will be very positive for the next 12 months.

Matthew Boss

Great. Best of luck.

Thomas Shannon

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please proceed with your question.

Jeremy Hamblin

Thanks and congrats on the strong results. I wanted to just ask a follow-up question in terms of the trailing 13-week period, make sure that I understood what you were saying, because you said that it was up 53% versus pre-pandemic levels. How does that translate on a quarter-to-date same-store sales basis?

Brett Parker

Sure. Hamblin, it's Brett Parker speaking. We haven't released that level of detail. We've been fairly cautious on the numbers outside of the quarter itself. So we've been putting out this chart consistently and done so for the purposes of giving incremental visibility. And I think if you look at kind of this year, April and back into March and February, and then kind of look at the prior year, you can see that's when the big uptick was happening. So we continue to comp, meaningfully higher. And then as Tom saying, saw some deceleration that we knew would happen as we come up against those more difficult comps. And then continuing to trend meaningfully higher than pre-pandemic and it's the trends are intact as Tom said.

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay. Got it. It just went from those comments from Thomas. It was hard to interpret whether or not comp trends were Q-to-date positive or not. Any -- do you want to clarify that at all?

Brett Parker

Well, we're not going to give the comp numbers on the quarter until we get into it. I think what Tom was articulating was that the front part of the quarter had the most difficult comps and would be easiest to keep higher on a total revenue basis and most difficult to keep high on a comp basis.

Jeremy Hamblin

Got it. Okay. I wanted to ask about MoneyBowl then, it looks like, you rolled that out as you said to almost 20% of your centers now. It looks like you saw a pretty meaningful uptick in app downloads. Wanted to see if you could comment or provide any color on the ability for this to drive the two intended goals, trip frequency in games played anything notable that you would be willing to share at this point in time? And then also with associated with that is with the pending launch of free play. What are the expected costs that you would incur with that launching or in beta test in Q4 here?

Thomas Shannon

So with respect to the performance in aggregate of the system, we're very encouraged by what we're seeing. But we're hesitant to give specific data points yet just because the data set isn't that rich, but the directionality is certainly, what we're looking to see. And then with respect to free to play and the cost to roll it out, it's de minimis at the location level, zero in many instances, where the systems already exist. So it's really just the overall development cost where and we didn't add heads to support that effort. It's just an allocation of the team dedicated to MoneyBowl. So in terms of incremental expense, if there were meaningful capital requirements needed at the centers or significant advertising plan for it or anything like that, that would be very different from what we're looking at today, which is just a simple push.

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay. Got it. And then last one for me before I hop out of the queue. Just in terms of, there's been quite a bit of noise related to the EEOC review that's been pending here. It seemed to grab quite a bit of media attention in the last week. Wanted to see if there is anything that you wanted to comment on that. I know probably some of it you can’t, but anything you were willing to share on that?

Thomas Shannon

Sure. Yeah. I mean you're right in that we're limited, but I would tell you, first of all, the claims made in the cnbc.com article are entirely false and we deny them in the strongest terms that there were any of those allegations are accurate. The EEOC investigation is not a new development. It's been dragging on for over seven years and we've disclosed in regulatory filings, all the information we're able to share, as you noted, we have nothing to hide. We have fully cooperated and provided information to document and documents to the EEOC throughout this whole process.

To date, the EEOC has not substantiated their determinations with any evidence or any viable methodology that supports their conclusion. Our own thorough investigation into the claims also has not substantiated any evidence a wrongdoing or any violation of our policies prohibiting any form of employment discrimination. Overall, in values based enterprise, Bowlero does not tolerate discriminatory demeaning context. These are the facts and the reasons why we continue to battle to have these claims thrown out.

Whatever the outcome is, it will not materially impact our business or distract us from executing against our strategic priorities. Our latest earnings results that we're talking about now reflect our unwavering focus and commitment to excellence. I'd also note that the cnbc.com article essentially regurgitates the same stale narrative and misleading claims the author made in a similar story that she wrote in the New York Post in 2017. At the end of the day, we stand by our positive workplace culture. We stand by our visionary leader and we stand by our track record of cultivating exceptional talent and beyond that, there's not much we can say.

Jeremy Hamblin

Got it. Thanks for the color. Best wishes guys.

Thomas Shannon

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Randy Konik with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Randy Konik

Hey, guys. Thanks a lot. Really appreciate it. I just want to kind of really think about and focus my questions on some long term opportunities for productivity enhancement. Can we just, first, I want to discuss lane kiosks and maybe give us some perspective, remind us what percent of the centers currently have the lane kiosk installed? And then have you seen kind of a noticeable difference in the amount of F&B per lane first bowling session, if you will, in the lanes or the centers with the lane kiosk versus the ones without. Just want to kind of get some perspective there because it seems like a good unlock for driving, higher and higher F&B and just revenue per lane going forward.

Thomas Shannon

Yeah, Randy. This is Tom. I think it's a great question. And as a funny coincidence, it's something I was spending time talking to some of my senior people about today. The reality is that kiosks have underperformed our expectations for them and certainly their potential. We have them in 80 of our highest grossing centers. And the technology is very good. We spent a lot of time. I think we're on version 3 or 4 of the product works very well. I think there were two problems that have resulted in. It not getting sort of the level of attention in the centers that it should.

The first is, we had a lot of management turnover, which we've addressed by giving broad-based raises to our all of our center level managers, operations managers, assistant general managers, general managers, and even the facility managers through the mechanics. Because we needed to mitigate the turnover we hadn't raised pay in those positions in quite a while, we made some meaningful increases. What we've seen since that happened is a dramatic stabilization in the workforce, managerial workforce.

The reason that matters is because you can't train managers and have something stick in terms of a quasi-complicated process or let's say a process with a number of attributes like getting the kiosks optimized if you have ramped turnover. So we need to do to address turnover for a lot of reasons. One of the casualties of high turnover was kiosk utilization because managers need to really understand the value it provides to them, whether it says an adjunct to a server or as a replacement to a server and the entire customer journey through that experience from educating them at the front end, this is an avenue by which they can order, making sure that the orders are executed properly by the kitchen and delivery to the lanes, et cetera.

So what we found recently was a wide range of how kiosks are being utilized in the centers. Some centers utilize them quite a lot. Some centers utilize them basically as a digital menu, and some centers didn't utilize them at all. So it's more of a cultural thing and more of a training thing than it is a technology thing. The good news is, I think that once we solve this, and we will. And we need, I think, a very dedicated product champion to really spearhead this effort that the possibility for this is meaningful.

And what does that mean? I would say, there's no reason we shouldn't be looking at a high-single digit or even low double-digit increase in retail food sales by getting these utilized. But the problem is unfortunately that this is not a technological solution. At the end of the day, it's a people based issue. And in a rapidly growing company with high turnover like everyone else in hospitality, it hasn't taken root culturally in the centers like we would have hoped. But this is addressable and it's something that we're very focused on.

Randy Konik

No. It's interesting. It almost feels like, investing in almost a greeter or someone that because when I go to the lanes, if someone does walk me over to the lanes and it could be just as simple as, hey, just these kiosks can help you out. And if you want to order food, blah blah blah. We can talk about that offline. But just seems like, obviously, a huge going forward in the years ahead.

My second question is more around the social, I guess the group events, very good growth in the quarter. The way I kind of almost thought about this was the last bowling party I went to when I was 6, that's 40 years ago, right? So it almost felt like there was a dormancy in bowling as a party being used -- being in a consideration for a kid party. Obviously, that's improved over the last few years with Bowlero remodels and everything. But it still seems like a massive opportunity ahead as the bowling party comes back into consideration for kid parties. How do you think about that? How do you think about that in the non- Bowlero versus Bowlero centers? Like, just give us some perspective there.

Thomas Shannon

Well, I mean, we do an enormously robust event business. I don't know what the TTM is, but I would imagine it's in the neighborhood of $200 million of events. So, the bowling birthday party is kind of a bedrock American institution in some markets it may be stronger than others. For example, in Los Angeles, the people I know out there say all they do on weekends is end going to birthday parties for their kids or other kids at bowling at our centers on the West side of LA. Same thing in Manhattan. So, I think it's that business will continue to grow long term and it's not one business, right? You've got kids birthday party business, you have adult social, you have corporate events, you have holiday events, right? I think all of those will grow either by population growth or other reasons.

I think we're actually helped by workers not going to the office as much as they did previously because it requires companies to get employees together in some way to keep the culture intact, and this is a great way of doing that. So I would say relative to what seems to be a very negative trend for many companies, which is work from home, and they're fighting that. They want people to come back. We've seen corporate activity stronger than it was previously as a result of what I think we're benefiting from that where companies need to get creative to get people back in the office or together, I should say. We're a great way of doing that. So the event business is extremely robust for us, and I think that all the market segments that go into that are growth segments for us really almost in perpetuity.

Randy Konik

Yeah. Super helpful. Thank you.

Thomas Shannon

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your question.

Ian Zaffino

Hi. Great. Thank you very much. Just wanted to build on that question. I guess I'm kind of hearing two different things on the event business. I think you mentioned that they were slowing a little bit and that was related to a sugar high. I guess, in fact, sugar high that you're referring to is just really companies trying to get employees back or did that have to do with something else? Because I guess the way I originally interpreted it is a sugar high probably would have just retail previously and now retail would have come down, but it seems like retail is strong. So maybe my interpretation of the sugar high is different.

And then the other question would be, Going into – I don't know if we're going into recession, I think people think we are. How does the business perform in a recession? And how do we think of maybe retail event, et cetera, maybe in a slowing macro environment? Thanks.

Thomas Shannon

So I'm glad you asked. Let me clarify. The weakness in the event business at the end of the quarter we just reported was in the social events. So that is small groups of people not corporate, who come in together typically on the weekends. That is the business that slowed most dramatically. And that is, that was the business where I think that there was the biggest sugar high where people were going out and they were sort of spending indiscriminately on a social basis a year ago. So that came in a little. Corporate business remained very strong. So that was the weakness and I'm glad you asked the question.

With regard to recession, and we've been through a number of them in the company's 26.5 year history. They're all different. We're not really meaningfully impacted by sort of shallow recessions. For one thing, we're a value offering right? So we're a cheaper alternative than most other entertainment opportunities, certainly compared to going to a sporting event or to a theme park or traveling anywhere, right? So we're local, we're in the community, and that's why when gas prices spiked, our business actually improved because we're local. We're easily accessible and we're low cost. So recessions don't bother us.

Now the only recessions that are really problematic for us are things like, when we had the great financial crisis, and companies just turn off the spigot and don't have corporate events. That hurts our business, meaningfully because that's a very good segment of our business, very profitable segment. But none of these things are in any way catastrophic for us. So the event of a garden variety recession for us, I think, might be revenues flat or down a couple of points. It's hard to imagine revenue being down much more than negative five even in a very meaningful recession because we become the default low cost alternative. And when you have a slowing of a business like that, it presents opportunities. The first is that the acquisition market becomes that much better.

So we've been doing a lot of deals. One of the things we've been facing in the last few years is that business was good for the industry and everyone had very high expectations of what the future was going to bring. When you have a recession, it resets sellers expectations lower. So more assets come on the market and perhaps at more favorable pricing. So every time there's been a recession, we've benefited financial crisis led to the bankruptcy of AMF. We acquired AMF very attractively. We turned it around, great deal. COVID -- a lot of deals emerge out of COVID, Bowl America and a number of others.

So number one, they're not that important to our business. It's not like we ever lose money and we make less money, but we make a lot of money to begin with. So if there's a slight reduction in profitability, really not that consequential. But from an M&A growth standpoint, it has tended to be on balance, a better thing than a worse thing for us. Brett, you've spent a lot of time sort of talking about what happened in recessions in years past. Do you want to talk about some of the actual data that we have?

Brett Parker

Sure. Thanks, Tom. So I would just -- before I get to even the data, I would just kind of stack on top of what you're saying, the value based offering absolutely matters. You're also talking about a business that has very high natural margins and low decremental. So we have the ability to be very nimble on our feet. The managers out in the field go through effectively boom and bust cycle training every year just riding our seasonality curve throughout the course of the year.

And then as Tom mentioned, in terms of the senior team, we've been doing this together since, before 9/11. So 9/11, GFC, COVID, and, you know, none of these things had any, lasting impact on us. So that was anything other than positive as Tom was saying. And that's really true for a couple of reasons. Number one, to pull on some of those stats, looking back at the AMF portfolio during the great financial crisis, which was the really the only large national diversified portfolio of assets to look at that's indicative of what we have now.

And they were only down 4.5% peak to trough during the GFC, and that was, with the business essentially unmanaged at the time. And the business that we were running was smaller had more exposure to the dense urban markets, et cetera. So a little bit more pain on the top line, but we actually grew EBITDA, 08, to 09 because we were out in front of it and we were managing it very actively. Now that remains in terms of a core part of who we are and what we do is something we call the recession contingent plan or RCP, which is essentially location from a stagnation to a depression and then it lists all the way down to the belly button analysis across thousands of rows, what actions are to be undertaken in response to each stimulus.

And what that does is it sets out for us a road map and a game plan that we can follow. We've been doing this since 2016. We know it works because we started running it in January of ‘20 as soon as there was any wonkiness around COVID. And that plan is updated every handful of months. It's on our computers and it can save 30% out of SG&A if needed. So, our finger sort of hovers above that button at all times. We have our entrepreneurial roots. We've never forgotten all those things that we've come through and it gives us a lot of confidence that whatever comes down the pipe will be able to handle it because it's unlikely to be anything that we haven't seen before.

Ian Zaffino

Okay. That's actually very helpful. So I guess, the way we think about just the model in general is in good times, you have very high incrementals and then I guess, to say, moderately downtimes, you have enough levers to pull to keep the decrementals very reasonable. And how do we think about just, you mentioned store growth or location growth. How do we think about location growth, I guess, maybe in today's market, if we look over the next 12 months. How do we think about location growth in today's environment over the next 12 months versus let's just say, a downturn in the economy? Thanks.

Thomas Shannon

Thanks. Well, I think we're going to have a very, very good next 12 months of growth. So if I had to ballpark, I would say, in the neighborhood of 25 to 30 new centers combination of acquisitions and new builds that are opening. We are under construction in several places right now. We have a number of deals working the way through the pipeline. In fact, we closed on an acquisition yesterday that hasn't even been announced yet. So in Tennessee, which I believe is our first in Tennessee. So we continue to go into new markets put in a foothold and we'll expand from there.

We are -- we have an infrastructure at a corporate level that is geared for growth, right? So we have a lot of people who process deals. We have a robustness to the organization that's predicated upon us continuing to grow. If we ever needed to streamline that, if we ever said, well, okay. We think the situation is severe, right? The recession is really deep and we're uncertain about the future. As Brett said, we can very rapidly take massive fixed cost out of overhead. And you can also go backwards in terms of management parse in the centers.

We are we are staffed to maximize revenue in good times. The staffing model is different in bad times. So there is operating leverage on the way up, there's operating leverage on the way down that's different. So we've been through three pretty severe macro environmental shocks since the company has existed. And we've navigated all of them, and the playbook is not new to us. So, that said, look, I think that to the extent that there's a recession and I'm not predicting one, but recessions are different for every industry.

I wouldn't want to be a car dealer. I wouldn't want to be necessarily a real estate agent. But bowling alley, low cost in your neighborhood, familiar, it's a great place to go, if you don't want to spend a lot of money. So to the extent that there's a recession. We just don't have that much volatility.

Ian Zaffino

Okay, great. Thank you very much. That's great color. Good night.

Thomas Shannon

Thanks, Ian.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Steven Wieczynski with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Steven Wieczynski

Hey, guys. Good afternoon and congrats on the quarter. So Tom and Brett, if we could stay on the scalability of cost across your business, if in fact did you do start to witness declines in demand. I guess to stay on that point there, is there any way to help us think about like if we actually threw a number out there, let's say revenues declines pick a number, let's say it's 5%. Is there any way for you to help us think about how much of that decline really could be offset by expense reductions?

Thomas Shannon

Well, let's just ballpark. Haven't done this before, so forgive me if it's inaccurate, but 10 million of overhead and then probably 50,000 per center, maybe more, but just to be conservative here. So 50,000, what would that be about 16.5 million, so 26.5 million in fixed cost right off the bat. And then if you have reductions in revenue, you also have some reduction in cost of goods sold, right? So to the extent that you have reductions in food and beverage, you have some corresponding reduction in food and beverage. So if you say, well, that in aggregate is 30 million, 35 million.

And I again, I think these are very conservative numbers. You're talking about a 3% plus total company revenue reduction before you see any impact in terms of profit reduction. But that is, if you do it, right? If you say, well, we're going to have a, if we're going through a shallow recession or you see some sort of shallow, whatever, softer results than you've seen historically, right? You don't want to over react to that. So, would we change our operating methodology if things started to slow a little bit probably not because we've made great investments that have really bolstered the company and positioned us for the growth that we've had and hopefully accelerated growth to come.

But if the concern is, what happens if you have a real recession? The answer is, we can act almost immediately. I mean, in COVID, for example, in two weeks, we took out enormous cost. And so, we can do what we need to do. I think though that we also don't overreact to stuff that doesn't turn out to be that consequential.

Steven Wieczynski

Yes. That's great.

Brett Parker

Sorry. So I was just going to add. Yeah. I mean, the key is the -- for a couple of percent type of a thing like that, there's really not even much you have to do from the parent company level because the centers are used to those sorts of evaporations in their performance anyway and optimizing performance through those scenarios. So, I mean, there's a lot of things that we can do, a lot of levers that we can pull to maintain or expand profitability depending on the environment.

Steven Wieczynski

Okay. That's great color. And then second question, Tom, probably for you. In your remarks, you talked about you've started CA, so called slowdown. And just want to be very clear here that's going to make a lot of investors kind of panic. But you're just talking about at this point your comparisons year-over-year are much more difficult. You're not seeing a material change in your normal retail customers appetite to spend or their spending power as they enter your stores. Is that -- am I thinking about that the right way?

Thomas Shannon

You are. And what I was really alluding to is, when we've had these consistent, very high double-digit comps year-after-year-after-year that has slowed.

Steven Wieczynski

Okay. And then if I can just add one more on real quick. From a price standpoint and taking price, where do you guys think you are at this point? And do you think you're at the point where you maybe have pushed price too much or is there still more room for you to take price depending on the geographic location?

Thomas Shannon

I think that we're in pause mode on taking price. But there are other ways of addressing price that or value that are -- we're going to start to explore. So one thing that we haven't done historically is things like bundling. It's all been a La Carte (ph) on a retail basis. And some of our competitors bundle, the most famous bundle is of course places like McDonald's where I think probably the majority of their customers buy a combo or happy meal or value meal, right, which is a bundle. And there are things that we can do that would provide greater value to our guests and still increase revenue, guest spend per visit and profit, but also increase value to the guest.

And so those are things that we're going to start to explore in earnest. We've already started to explore them. And I think that could be an important growth factor for us. I think it's probably a bit of a blind spot. I think our pricing on the event side, it's been very sophisticated. I think our pricing on the retail side has been the opposite. And so that's a great opportunity for us. But it's not going to be a price increase. I don't think that, in this environment, price increases are warranted. Now typically we take price increases in the fall. And so we'll see, what the tea leaves look like going into the busiest season. And it may be that we feel like we can take price, but at this point, we're not looking at price increases.

Steven Wieczynski

Okay. Great color. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

Brett Parker

Thank you.

Thomas Shannon

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Tilchan with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question.

Jason Tilchan

Great. Thanks for taking the question. There was a note in the deck that indicated sort of relative Q4 seasonality within the total annual mix. I just wanted to clarify on the profitability side, it sort of indicated 50% of total trailing month, trailing 12 month EBITDA, which would sort of imply a pretty significant year-over-year margin compression. I'm just curious relative to the commentary earlier about the year-over-year differences in the calendar. Can you talk about some of the key puts and takes for Q4 profitability and whether that interpretation on the sort of year-over-year margin compression is accurate? Thank you.

Thomas Shannon

Yeah. No, there's – it's not an indication of year-over-year margin compression. What you're seeing is sequential margin compression, which just the natural state of things as we go from our biggest quarter Q3 into one of our smallest quarters Q4. So it's – you're always going to see margin come in Q4 versus Q3. And then a little bit of difference just this year, Q4 versus last year, Q4 is around those most particularly, the $15 million of incremental revenue from the 53rd week that won't be repeated this year. So you have some coming in on that. But that's we just wanted to be clear with folks what items from last year were anomalous and what those impacts were so that we could have a reasonable setup going into Q4.

Jason Tilchan

Okay. So just to make sure, I follow that. So it's sort of a modest – those dynamics could have sort of a modest year-over-year margin impact, but not a significant impact sort of the way to think about it?

Thomas Shannon

Yeah, because it's not even an actual impact on margins. There's not a way that they go through. Yeah. You just if you're going to have a one-week less, right? You have substantially less revenue and it doesn't really make a huge difference in terms of cost.

Jason Tilchan

Okay. That's helpful. And just one other follow-up on some of the earlier questions about the events business. Just curious if you can maybe help us understand a little bit the mix within the events business between corporate, kids, parties and sort of smaller social gatherings, how each one size wise stacks up either this quarter or sort of trailing 12 basis would be helpful.

Thomas Shannon

Brett, do you want to provide that later, because I don't have that information.

Brett Parker

Yeah. That's fine. I mean, what I would tell you is that the, what we view as retail events, which are event and/or birthday parties and social make up a majority of the event count and a minority of the event dollars and then corporate is the inverse. And it's just because the per person spend is materially different.

Jason Tilchan

Okay, great. That's really helpful. And just to reiterate what Tom said earlier, the corporate side at demand has remained really strong there through the end of last quarter and then the weakness that he commented on was more on the sort of smaller social gatherings?

Brett Parker

Yeah. I mean events in aggregate across the quarter were really strong. I mean, the event revenue in the quarter at $60 million was 49% higher than last year and 84% higher than pre-pandemic. And it's 44% higher even on a same store sales basis than last year were 52% higher than pre-pandemic same store. So I mean the business -- the event business overall was quite robust. And the TTM number, just FYI wall, because Tom did mention it. He was pretty much right on the button. It's $217 million.

Jason Tilchan

Great. Very helpful. Thanks a lot.

Brett Parker

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Eric Handler with Roth NKM. Please proceed with your question.

Eric Handler

Good afternoon. Thank you for the questions. Two questions. First, with an economic tightening, is that helpful or a hindrance for the M&A pipeline in terms of volume of potential deals?

Thomas Shannon

Well, historically, it's always been good for us. So we're cash buyers. We don't rely on financing to get these deals done. And in boom times, sellers have higher price expectations and are more reluctant to sell quality assets and the inverse is true in downturn. So, we don't wish for recessions, but we've been doing this long enough and through enough cycles to realize that these downturns do have a silver lining and it shows up in M&A.

Eric Handler

Yeah. Okay. And then with regards to the new builds, obviously, things slowed down in terms of lease signings during COVID. You said, things are a little bit more active now coming out of COVID. What does the situation look like as with economic tightening? And, as you look at more new build deals, are there a lot of opportunities being thrown your way? So, like, what could that, like, what would be a good goal for you 12 months from now to have sort of in the pipeline?

Thomas Shannon

We have a tremendous amount in the pipeline now. So we're currently under construction, well under construction. I'd say more than 50% done in San Jose, in the Westfield Valley Fair mall, which is one of the best malls in the country, exceptional location in a fantastic mall. We started construction in Miami, Miami World Center, which should end up as one of our, top five certainly top 10 highest grossing locations. Right in the heart of Miami zero competition. We've done some preliminary construction in Moore Park, which is sort of out near it's out in near, like, Thousand Oaks, Calabasas outside of LA.

We have I think there are six or seven signed leases and six or seven behind that that are likely to get signed. So from a new build standpoint, it's actually -- our pipeline has never been this good. And the locations are phenomenal. A lot of California, which our California centers do about on average almost twice what the rest of the country does. So we love we love building in California and buying in California. It's our biggest market. We have about 50 locations that are already. And I could see adding 10 more in the next 18 months. Despite all the headwinds that you hear about in California, which true.

The reality is that you just have an enormous population, huge amount of disposable income and a cultural propensity to bowl, which you would not expect, but Californian’s love to bowl. I don't know why they just do. And so we do great in California and we continue to expand there. But as part of this pipeline, we've got half a dozen or so. New builds in California, couple in Denver, Miami as I mentioned. And so it's the best it's ever been.

Eric Handler

Great. Thanks, Tom.

Thomas Shannon

Sure. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we do not have time for any further questions. I will now turn the call to Brett Parker for closing remarks.

Brett Parker

Thank you. And thank you to all of you for joining us on today's call. We greatly appreciate your interest and support in the fundamentally sound business that we're continuing to build. We're extremely proud of the record breaking quarter that our world class team achieved. We're also very pleased with the capital structure management initiatives that we executed. We look forward to speaking with you after the conclusion of our fiscal 2023. Thanks again for your time today.

Operator

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