CNFinance Holdings Ltd (CNF) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

CNFinance Holdings Ltd (NYSE:CNF) Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call March 22, 2023 8:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Qian Jun - VP & Director

Jing Li - Acting CFO, Assistant President and Head of Department, Finance & Internal Control

Conference Call Participants

William Gregozeski - Greenridge Global

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the CNFinance Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 Unaudited Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. [indiscernible] Manager of Capital Markets.

Unidentified Company Representative

Good morning and good evening, and welcome to CNFinance Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year of 2022 Financial Results Conference Call.

In today's call, our Director and Vice President, Mr. Qian Jun, will walk us through the operating results followed by the financial results from our acting CFO, Ms. Li. After that, we will have a Q&A session.

Before we start, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 as amended and as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements can be identified by terminologies such as will, expect, anticipates, future, intends, plans, beliefs, estimates, targets, going forward, outlook and similar statements. Such statements are based upon management's current expectations and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company's control which may cause the company's actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements.

Further information regarding this and other risks, uncertainties and factors is included in the company's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The company does not undertake any obligation to update the forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required under law.

Now please welcome Mr. Qian Jun.

Qian Jun

Thank you, everyone, for joining us in this conference call. On today's call, we will introduce the company's financial and operational results in the fourth quarter and fiscal year of 2022 followed by a Q&A session.

The company generated interest income of RMB 1.7 billion and net revenue under the commercial bank partnership model of RMB 58 million for fiscal year of 2022, [indiscernible] achieving a net profit of RMB 140 million, an increase of 111% over the same period of last year.

Given the strict pandemic prevention and control policies maintained in 2022, the company still achieved year-on-year growth in business sales as well as profitability, mainly due to the accomplishment of the following.

We rigorously promoted the new products and expanded our customer base through it. Since the launch in 2021, the commercial bank partnership model has gradually gained recognition from the market and our partners. After demanding cooperation with private banks, including [indiscernible] Bank in 2022, the commercial bank partnership model began to grow rapidly in the second half of 2022 and took shape at end of the year.

In 2022, the company recommended a total of RMB 2.5 billion of loans to banks, meeting the target set at the beginning of the year. The net revenue under the commercial bank partnership model also increased.

We have reduced the funding costs. Management made a judgment at the beginning of the year that most conditions may change this year and that there would be a relative abundance of funds. The subsequent development were in line with the management's expectations at the beginning of the year. And therefore, in order to take full advantage of the fee reductions by financial institutions, the company continued to negotiate with its trust company partners through the year and reached an agreement to reduce funding costs in the second half of 2022.

The company began to participate more actively in the capital market during the year. The company continued to push forward for a secondary offering in 2022 and actively engage with domestic and international investors. Through this context, we view that both domestic and international investors continue to have a positive view of China's inclusive financial industry and this has reinforced the company's confidence.

Of course, while fully recognizing the achievement of our business, it is important to note that there is still an improvement due to the impact of the pandemic prevention and control policy on borrowers' solvency as well as the overall efficiency of this, post the NPL, our delinquent ratio has increased and the sales partner has been under greater pressure to repurchase default loans. Under the circumstance, the company allowed more partners to fulfill their repurchase obligation in 2022 using installment payments with CNFinance charging of services. This policy has the liquidity structure of the partners and enrich the company's revenue mix. We also plan to continue to refine our installment repurchase policy in 2023 to further reduce the burden on sales partners, and I will elaborate the details later.

We believe that 2023 will continue to be a year of uncertainty and recently released 2023 reports on the work of government also mentioned that China currently face many difficulties and challenges in its development. In 2023, the company will cooperate the development of the big scale, the facility and quality, continue their transformation to a service platform in order to achieve high-quality development, our specific work objects include.

We will continue to [indiscernible] new products, upgrade our model, expand our customer base and grow our scale. In this end, we will continue to deepen our cooperation with commercial banks. Other than negotiate with the current commercial banks partners on the ratio of the deposits and seeking cooperation with more banks, we also plan to introduce sales partners into the commercial bank partnership model. Our goal is to let sales partners provide private enhancements for the commercial banks with CNFinance as a service provider.

Keep upgrading the funding model. In 2023, other than keep reducing the funding costs, we will actively negotiate with the venture capital institutions on refinancing with non-performing assets and use such capital to fill the repurchase of the sales partners. By doing that, we are hoping to allow more sales partners to fulfill their obligations by installment payments.

We will continue to invest in technology and drive digital transformation. The company plans to further increase investments in technology in 2023 to promote the construction of an intelligent risk control system. We will collect data through research and analysis to build a streaming model suitable for the company, thereby empowering the business development by optimizing the entire [indiscernible] process.

We will pay more attention to asset quality by better cooperating growth and asset quality. Firstly, we will optimize our credit approval model. Secondly, we will use market data as a base to find guidance on which region we should put more results and therefore improve the quality of our profile. Our initial plan right now is to focus on expanding our business in Taiwan and new Taiwan cities.

So recently released 2023 report on the work of government once again emphasized on encouraging and supporting the development and growth of the private economy and private enterprises and supporting the development of more medium and micro enterprises and individual enterprises, which proves the management as mentioned of China's inclusive financial institute -- factory will continue to be in a period of strategic opportunity, it applies to the current situation.

At the same time, the management believes that with the adjustment of the pandemic prevention and control policy and the government's effort to stimulate demand as one important task for national economic development in 2023. China's economy has the potential to pick up, and we will also see the opportunity to continue to deepen our own reform for one more micro and small business owners with better financing services and also contribute our share to the cause of inclusive finance in China.

With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Ms. J. Li, the acting CFO of the company, who will walk you through the fourth quarter and fiscal year of 2022 financials.

Jing Li

Thanks, Mr. Qian, and thanks again to everyone joining us today. I will through the fourth quarter and fiscal year of 2022 financials. We believe year-over-year comparison is the pathway to review our performance. Unless otherwise stated, all percentage change I'm going to give will be on that basis.

And also, unless otherwise stated, all number I'm going to give will be in RMB. We will start with fourth quarter of 2022 first and followed by the result of the fiscal year.

During the fourth quarter of 2022, total loan origination volume was RMB 3 billion and the total volume of loans recommended to commercial bank was RMB 2 billion.

Total interest and fees income were RMB 455 million. Interest income charged to sales partners was RMB 33 million, which represents the fee charged to sales partners who chose to repurchase the default loans in installments.

Collaboration cost for sales partners represents the sales incentives paid to sales partners decreased to RMB 80 million from RMB 120 million in the same period of last year. This primarily attributed to a lower average rate the company paid to its sales partner in the fourth quarter of 2022 as compared with last year.

The net revenue under the commercial bank partnership model representing fees charged to commercial bank for service, including introducing borrowers, initial credit assessment, facilitating loans from banks to borrowers and providing technical assessment to borrower and banks.

The net of fees paid to third-party insurance company was RMB 58 million. The company has started to collaborate with commercial banks since last year and such collaboration grew and scaled in the second half of this year.

The net income was RMB 30 million comparing with a net loss of RMB 105 million in the same period of last year. And now let's move to the results for fiscal year of 2022. The total interest and fees income was RMB 1.7 billion, and the total interest and fees expense was RMB 785 million. The interest income charged to sales partners representing fees charged to sales partner who choose to repurchase default loans in installment increased to RMB 122 million from RMB 33 million in the same period of last year.

The collaboration cost for sales partner representing the sales incentives paid to sales partners decreased to RMB 321 million from RMB 426 million for the same period of 2021. Net revenue under the commercial bank partnership model representing fees charged to commercial banks for introducing borrowers, initial credit assessments, facilitating loans from the bank to borrowers and providing technical assessments to the borrowers and banks. Net of fees paid to the third-party insurance company was RMB 58 million in this year.

The net interest and fees income after collaboration costs was RMB 683 million, representing an increase of 11% as compared with RMB 615 million in the same period of last year. And the provision for credit losses was RMB 238 million for this year compared to a reversal of RMB 273 million in the same period of last year. The reversal last year was primarily due to the fact that the company transferred loans under a traditional facilitation model to third-party in bulk during the fourth quarter of 2021 and allowance of such loans was reversed.

The increase in provision for credit losses in this year was mainly due to the economic uncertainty caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the relevant prevention and control measures as well as the downward pressure faced by the China's real estate market during 2022. Net loss on sales of loan was RMB 45 million for the fiscal year of 2022 compared to RMB 451 million in the same period of last year, primarily attributable to the fact that the company transferred loans under the traditional facilitating model to third party in bulk during the first quarter of last year. Such loans was all facilitated prior to 2019 and the majority of them were long past due.

Other gains net of RMB 90 million compared with RMB 19 million in the same period of last year. This primarily attributable to the increase of credit risk mitigation position forfeited by sales partners. Total operating expenses decreased by 11% to RMB 339 million as compared to RMB 381 million for the same period of last year.

Net income increased by 111% to RMB 138 million for the fiscal year of 2022 compared to RMB 65 million for the same period last year. And the delinquency ratio, excluding loans held for sale for loans originated by company was 18.3 percentage as of December 31, 2022. And the NPL ratio, excluding loans held for sale for loans originated by company decreased from 2.1% as of December 31, 2021, to 1.1% as of December 31, 2022.

With that, we now like to open up the call for Q&A, please?

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And our first question will come from William Gregozeski of Greenridge Global.

William Gregozeski

Could you talk about your expectations for origination for the current year, especially between the split between trust and commercial? Because you did so much commercial origination in the fourth quarter, what is that percentage going to look like across this current year?

Qian Jun

So our targeted total loan origination volume in 2023 is around RMB 20 billion, which is about 40% increase in that of 2022. And we're hoping 40% of that RMB 20 billion has come from loans recommended to commercial banks.

William Gregozeski

Okay. Great. And then on the -- given the general economic uncertainty and property market uncertainty, are you guys seeing any more sales partners coming to the platform because of the additional services you guys provide in terms of the risk management and the installment plan compared to doing it on their own as they may have been doing before?

Qian Jun

Okay. So based on the data, very happy to see that the number of active sales partners as of the end of 2020 actually increased about 100, which is a 10% increase as compared to the same period of -- as compared to the end of 2021.

And also, I want to mention that besides the better services we can provide them, the better risk management and external fundings, I think there are 2 major reasons why the sales partners are more willing to join our platform. The first thing is their confidence in how China's economy is going to pick up. And I think the second reason is that the repurchase by installment policy we rolled out in 2022, I think that really could help them ease their liquidity pressure and also help them to better manage their own risks.

William Gregozeski

Okay. Great. As far as your current loan to value, do you guys have that ratio where it stood at the end of the year compared to the year ago period?

Qian Jun

So at the end of 2022, the average LTV ratio is around 60%, which remained rather stable through the past 3 years.

William Gregozeski

Okay. Given the -- you guys are now breaking up the income charge to sales partners for these installment loans, is this a number that you guys are expecting will rise over the course of the year? Or will it start to tail off as the economy and everything improves over the course of the year? How should we look at that line item?

Qian Jun

Could you repeat the second part of the question, please?

William Gregozeski

Yes. More just wanting to get an idea of where you guys see the interest charge to sales partners line item going over the course of '23. Is it going to increase throughout or increase and then start tailing off?

Qian Jun

Okay. So based on what we are seeing how the economy is picking up and recovery, I think the overall asset quality of the loans originated by us is going to be better and which is going to drive down the overall delinquency ratio. And therefore, I think the total scale of how much the sales partners have to repurchase is going to go down. And therefore, I think the interest income charged to our sales partners is going to remain rather stable in 2023 with a little going down.

William Gregozeski

Okay. And last question is more just general. Given the current environment, what do you guys see as the biggest risk for the company and biggest opportunity for the current environment?

Qian Jun

Okay. So I think the major challenge to CNFinance is whether we can contain the increase of delinquency ratio given the adjustment -- post the adjustment of pandemic prevention and control policies. And that means we have to focus more on the asset quality.

So to address this challenge, we're going to take a couple of measures, including I kind of want to focus more on expanding our businesses in Tier 1 and new Tier 1 cities and just to lower the proportion that we're doing in Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities. And also, we want to just use technology to refine the whole loan approval process and just to manage risks better.

And also, I think the opportunities presented to us, including that the first thing, is how the -- how China's economy is going to pick up, going to recover post the adjustment to the pandemic prevention and control.

And also the second thing is, so after the past 2 years, we have finally seen the trading volume and property price in core areas start to recover. And since the majority of our business was conducted in such regions, and I think that's another good news to us.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Jane for any closing remarks.

Unidentified Company Representative

Thank you for joining us today. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at ir@cashchina.cn. Thank you.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation, and you may now disconnect.