Sidhant Sibal: So the EU will speak in one voice..we have seen some divergences.
Ugo Astuto: No divergence, full unity as reflected in the package that is being discussed that is reflective in the declaration which was published on Thursday night, a declaration by 27 member states, so no divergence, full unity within EU and beyond. As I was telling you about this package of sanctions, decisions are taken with very close coordination with our partners and allies, the US, UK, Canada and others.
Sidhant Sibal: But will it deter Russian Putin it looks like there is no stopping the President
Ugo Astuto: This is a very severe military aggression, totally unprovoked, totally unjustified. So what we are trying to do is to make Russia accountable, to make Russia pay the consequences in economic terms, political isolation and we also hope that the United Nations, the international community will do the same.
Sidhant Sibal: You talked about isolation for the Russian President, what kind of isolation do you foresee?
Ugo Astuto: Let me simply refer to what the United Nations Secretary General said, this aggression is a clear breach of the United Nations charter. It is severe and Russia has been violating UN Charter, the international law. The very agreement signed by Russia, the Minsk pact, and agreements underpinning European security for decades. It is very serious and I think Russia will pay a price for it
Sidhant Sibal: And do you see any kind of talks in future with Russian leaders, by EU leadership?
Ugo Astuto: We are always ready to talk. You have seen the visits of the French President, the German chancellor. The aggression has to stop immediately and unconditionally and the Russians have to withdraw. We are ready to talk, once Russia stops its aggression and withdraws its troops but conditions must be such that we can talk with a purpose
Sidhant Sibal: Now when it comes to Indo Pacific, what is the vision like for the EU
Ugo Astuto: Our vision for the Indo pacific is a free and open space that is rules-based where respect for international law is paramount. These were the messages conveyed in Paris where we had a very large gathering and very good attendance including EAM Jaishankar. I think the basic feature that brings us together is our faith in open societies, democracies, and respect for international law. Based on this principle we can work together on a number of issues in the Indo Pacific, various facets, economic development, connectivity, green and digital transition, all this possible but it is also rooted in respect for international law which is what we see now in jeopardy in Europe.
Sidhant Sibal: Any high-level engagement by EU on Indo Pacific this year?
Ugo Astuto: Yes, engagement is for sure growing, if you look at the meeting itself there were a number of deliverables, south Asia, south-east Asia and centrality of ASEAN we all agree on. There will be further additional deliverables.