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    Two questions about bulking and hypertrophy

    If at any point it's relevant, I'm 6'3 (1.9 m), 170 (77 kg).

    How much of a detriment is it if I exercise on a given day but possibly don't reach a calorie surplus? I always get plenty of protein (at least 150g) and carbs (usually around 300, sometimes less), but sometimes I wake up the next day and I weigh less than I weighed at the same time the day before.

    I calculated my TDEE and it's about 2200 or so, so I'm trying to consume around 2500 daily.

    Second question is how much of a factor is meal timing for achieving results? Sometimes I have to cram 80% of my food into a 3-hour window. Should I stop doing that?

    Thanks.
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    Sudden weight changes are almost always to do with shifts in water weight. Changes in fat and muscle tissue are much slower and always explainable by long term average calorie intake.

    2200 sounds like a low TDEE for someone your size. I'd lose 1lb a week on that. Losing weight will be a headwind to muscle gain.

    Meal timing is not a big factor. In a 1 day window, it barely matters at all except maybe for protein - it's better to get several widely spaced protein feedings per day. But even that is no deal breaker.
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    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    Sudden weight changes are almost always to do with shifts in water weight. Changes in fat and muscle tissue are much slower and always explainable by long term average calorie intake.

    2200 sounds like a low TDEE for someone your size. I'd lose 1lb a week on that. Losing weight will be a headwind to muscle gain.
    How can I know for sure that I'm getting the right amount of calories without going overboard? Should I re-calculate my TDEE?
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    Originally Posted by RayAP19 View Post
    How can I know for sure that I'm getting the right amount of calories without going overboard? Should I re-calculate my TDEE?
    Stick with a weekly calorie amount for 4 weeks and review the effects of that amount then adjust accordingly. Daily calories are not as important as weekly however getting in the correct amount of protein in daily is .
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    Originally Posted by RayAP19 View Post
    How can I know for sure that I'm getting the right amount of calories without going overboard? Should I re-calculate my TDEE?
    you can't without trial and error. keep eating 2500 calories, weigh yourself every morning and see what happens to your weight. you should be gaining around 1-2 pounds per month. even 3 pounds is fine, but not optimal afaik

    EDIT: tommy beat me to it
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    You'll need to eat more than 2,500 calories if you want to gain weight. I would go up a few hundred calories in whichever way you like - more protein, more carbs, more fats, or some combination of those.
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    Originally Posted by DougyF7 View Post
    You'll need to eat more than 2,500 calories if you want to gain weight. I would go up a few hundred calories in whichever way you like - more protein, more carbs, more fats, or some combination of those.
    I agree, but I also would apply the brakes if you find that you're gaining more than 3lb/month.
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    Originally Posted by RayAP19 View Post
    If at any point it's relevant, I'm 6'3 (1.9 m), 170 (77 kg).

    How much of a detriment is it if I exercise on a given day but possibly don't reach a calorie surplus? I always get plenty of protein (at least 150g) and carbs (usually around 300, sometimes less), but sometimes I wake up the next day and I weigh less than I weighed at the same time the day before.

    I calculated my TDEE and it's about 2200 or so, so I'm trying to consume around 2500 daily.

    Second question is how much of a factor is meal timing for achieving results? Sometimes I have to cram 80% of my food into a 3-hour window. Should I stop doing that?

    Thanks.
    Honestly not sure where you got your numbers from, but if I were you, i'd start closer to 3000 and assess from there.
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    I'd also suggest measuring your bicep, thigh, shoulder girdle/chest and waist. Those measurements, coupled with your daily weight, will give you a good idea of where you're putting on the weight.
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    Originally Posted by EliKoehn View Post
    I agree, but I also would apply the brakes if you find that you're gaining more than 3lb/month.
    Be careful with the lbs per month guideline. Subpar training and a calorie surplus and you'll gain almost all fat. Keep an eye on your waist measurement at the navel as this is a good barometer of fat gain or loss. Also miscounting weekly calories may in reality may put you at a higher calorie amount than you think you're taking in. It will come down to trial and error
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    Originally Posted by Tommy W. View Post
    Be careful with the lbs per month guideline. Subpar training and a calorie surplus and you'll gain almost all fat. Keep an eye on your waist measurement at the navel as this is a good barometer of fat gain or loss. Also miscounting weekly calories may in reality may put you at a higher calorie amount than you think you're taking in. It will come down to trial and error
    Good point - thanks for the reminder.
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