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    Should i lift to failure ?

    Hey, i have a question. I train fullbody 3x per week. I never lifted to failure, just close to it. I recently started more focusing on building muscle, also little bit increased my calories and i have question about training to failure. What i know, training to failure may lead to better muscle and strenght growth, but is very taxing for regeneration. Im intermediate, lifting for like half-year now. Do you think that lifting to failure (only on last sets) will lead to burnout/overtrain, after some time, or with just fullbody 3x per week i should be okay with it and it will be benefically for hypertrophy ? Ty for answers
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    You aren't an intermediate lifter if you have only been training for six months. You're still a novice and will be for a while, though that's pretty irrelevant to the question.

    A good general rule of thumb is to go until your form starts to fail but not until you have to bail out of a lift because safety can become a factor with some movements like barbell squats.

    That said, some programs dictate that you don't lift to form failure, which is perfectly fine and leads to the best advice I can give: As a novice lifter, choose a well-regarded program and follow it for months or even years (not just a few weeks). If you stop making gains or get bored with the program, switch to another well-regarded program.

    A good program will tell you how to progressively overload and you won't need to ask whether you should lift to failure.
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    Originally Posted by Shakewhey View Post
    Hey, i have a question. I train fullbody 3x per week. I never lifted to failure, just close to it. I recently started more focusing on building muscle, also little bit increased my calories and i have question about training to failure. What i know, training to failure may lead to better muscle and strenght growth, but is very taxing for regeneration. Im intermediate, lifting for like half-year now. Do you think that lifting to failure (only on last sets) will lead to burnout/overtrain, after some time, or with just fullbody 3x per week i should be okay with it and it will be benefically for hypertrophy ? Ty for answers
    The “train to failure Boogeyman “ is a lie. I have trained to failure my whole life, many times beyond failure and I have never “over trained “ or burned out.

    Even now, at age 55, I push for 10-12 or even more sets per body part to Failure…and do it again four days later.

    It works great. No fear, zero doubt.

    Word of caution- things like squats and deadlifts should stop BEFORE form fails.
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    Originally Posted by coachcalande View Post
    The “train to failure Boogeyman “ is a lie. I have trained to failure my whole life, many times beyond failure and I have never “over trained “ or burned out.

    Even now, at age 55, I push for 10-12 or even more sets per body part to Failure…and do it again four days later.

    It works great. No fear, zero doubt.

    Word of caution- things like squats and deadlifts should stop BEFORE form fails.
    Damn words right out of my mouth. Except I’m not 55 yet.
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    It's far more nuanced. But the easyy answer is....

    Sure, it's a tool you can use. But isn't required.

    Some muscle groups handle failure/recovery better than others, almost universally those that aren't hammered at a long muscle length with the associated matching resistance curve that makes it excessively difficult there. Or those that require a lot of internal stabilisation, if your bracing sucks.

    I'd be much more concerned with your nutrition, sleep and programming (see: workload. Not periodisation) than missing reps or coming close.
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    Except I’m not 55 yet.
    I'm 9 months and a few days away.
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    Originally Posted by paulinkansas View Post
    I'm 9 months and a few days away.
    I hope I’m nearly as jacked as you when I get up there
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    Going to failure often means needing an extra day for the soreness to pass, if you did more than one failure. Probably does not matter.

    I found with chin ups, I got better faster with spread out volume far from failure.

    I search for the weight and reps that give me an endorphin high.
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