Thread: German Volume Training (direct tricep work?)

Gvt is provably with studies and anecdote..****.

I guess if you are a high dose skittle eater..
Tasting the bodybuilding rainbow.
It doesn't matter much then.

Should I add direct tricep work and do shoulder isolation exercises at home on off days or not

or maybe close grip bench press and curls 10x10 and overhead press 3x8-12?

And for the rest, believe me its a good plan for me. I rather do for example 10x10 flat bench than 3x10 flat bench, 3x10 incline bench and 3x10 dips or something. I like simplicity. And I don't need no skittles to recover from training a muscle hard once a week. Just let me do me and answer my question instead of questioning the whole idea, thats counterproductive. I hate all that flip flopping between all these ideas, I did a lot if that in the last few weeks. I am going to do German volume training and stick to it for 8 weeks no matter what

Originally Posted by bigbaba1

I am not a very advanced lifter

You're better off running a proven novice / intermediate program at your level. Unless you're eating bodybuilding skittles, german volume training is going to be a massive waste of time for you, on top of the majority of work being junk volume.

Wow, you're pretty f***ing fragile, huh?

I did GVT for a few blocks once. Was fun. Except for the squats. That s*** sucked. Made a ton of progress on squat and overhead press though when I got back to normal volume.

I can help but I'll need some more information. First, are you German?

Originally Posted by bigbaba1

CAN YOU ****ING READ???? I ****ING SAID I MADE UP MY MOTHER****ING MIND, AND MAKING ME FLIP FLOP BETWEEN PROGRAMS IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR ME. I EXPLICITLY ASKED FOR NO POST SUGGESTING OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE I COULDN'T MAKE UP MY MIND FOR WEEKS NOW I MADE UP MY MIND AND ITS A DONE DEAL. SO SHUT THE **** UP IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION

seriously making me question that whole thing again is the worst thing you could have possibly did to me. Junk volume? Who gives a **** if I do 10 sets of 1 exercise or 3 different exercises? Shut the **** up. You already did damage to me with your post. I ****ing asked you to not do that

When you ask for advice, you may not get what you want. But that's the point. You don't know what you don't know. I'm informing you that German Volume Training is a massive waste of time for nearly everyone, but especially someone of your level. Attached are a couple of reputable sources on the topic.

Study on German Volume Training:
To maximize hypertrophic training effects, it is recommended that 4-6 sets per exercise be performed, as it seems gains will plateau beyond this set range and may even regress due to overtraining.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27941492/

Erik Helms on German Volume Training:
What that means is that as you’re increasing volume you’re going to get this kind of diminishing returns as the volume keeps going up. Eventually, you’re going to increase volume to the point where you’re not making further gains, you’re just doing more volume.
https://legionathletics.com/eric-hel...lume-training/

Again, you would be better served training with a proven novice / intermediate program, being consistent with it, and not making changes to the program.

Good luck with your training goals.