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    Question Should I Take Creatine at 17?

    Hello, guys!

    I've been lifting for 2-3 months now, I'm planning to take creatine as I saw its benefits.

    I'm a bit hesitant because some of the sites said that under 18 it is not advised but others said that I could easily take it. Those were kind of old answers, so I'm curious if more research has been done on this and if I could take it. Also, considering I've been training for a couple of months, is it benefital for me at all?

    I also saw a potential downside of it: hair loss. Sadly, everyone in my family kind of bald due to hair loss, so I'm a bit afraid this would accelerate mine too. Do you know any new research on this if this is true or not?

    Thank you.
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    No.

    Research isn't going to be done on this, either.

    Here is where 99% of your results will come from: Routine, Diet, Rest.


    What routine are you following? List it please, and be aware that a routine (even if you made it yourself, which you shouldn't) includes exercises, sets, reps, rest periods, and planned progression.

    Have you posted any form check videos to this forum (exercise section) or any other reputable location for feedback? What expert's videos have you watched, or books read, on form?

    How many calories and carbs/fat/protein are you getting per day? Average weekly bodyweight gain? If you don't know that, you are definitely not in a position to spend money on supplements. Start tracking somewhere free like www.myfitnesspal.com

    You have tremendous muscle growth and strength development available over the next decade, but Diet, Routine, and Rest are what will get you there.
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    First of all, thank you for the reply!

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    How many calories and carbs/fat/protein are you getting per day? Average weekly bodyweight gain? If you don't know that, you are definitely not in a position to spend money on supplements. Start tracking somewhere free like .
    I'm doing a diet and tracking it everyday, this diet has been made by a Youtuber: Jeremy Ethier. I'm 67 kg, and this diet consists of 2700 kcal with nutritions: fat: 80g, carbs: 350g, Protein 160g. This should be optimal for me to gain ~0.2kg on a weekly basis. Also, on workout days, after workout I drink a whey protein shake.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Have you posted any form check videos to this forum (exercise section) or any other reputable location for feedback? What expert's videos have you watched, or books read, on form?
    I haven't posted any form check on this site, but I watch videos and read about cues before workout on the exercises that I'll be using. Videos are mainly from: Jeremy Ethier, MindPumpTV, Scott Herman and Athlean-X.
    While doing my workouts I always try to do the proper form but I'm still learning some of them.

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    What routine are you following? List it please, and be aware that a routine (even if you made it yourself, which you shouldn't) includes exercises, sets, reps, rest periods, and planned progression.
    Yesterday or the day before that I posted an article in the "Workout Programs" section: forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180442273.
    It's basically a hybrid workout that I'm planning to switch to next week. It's a 5 day plan with the two most known split methods: upper/lower/push/pull/legs. I got this workout from Youtube and switched some of the exercises for my preference (of course I selected exercises so it works the same muscles that I replaced with them) and also changed the volume. In the comment section they said that it might be a little high volume, but to this time I've been working out with high volume so I'll try it out and modify it overtime if needed.

    Rest period is always 1-2 minutes between sets.

    I'm planning to progress with it by using progressive overload.

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    So, do you think from the above information that I train optimally?
    Thanks in advance!
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    Optimal, no.

    I think you should take the advice you were given in the other thread regarding program

    You're doing too much at too light of weight and too many different exercises when you haven't locked down form (you should at minimum be taking good videos of yourself and comparing them to known good form to self correct, at minimum, BTW)

    You grow in the kitchen and when resting, you don't grow in the gym, the gym is the stimulus, and when you're a weak novice it doesn't take much stimulus
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Optimal, no.
    You're doing too much at too light of weight and too many different exercises when you haven't locked down form (you should at minimum be taking good videos of yourself and comparing them to known good form to self correct, at minimum, BTW)
    Most of the exercises I've been doing in these past months some of them with a coach, the only ones I have problem with and trying to correct them are the bench press and deadlift. So really, I don't think that would be a problem, so do you suggest that I should cut down in volume a little bit? May I ask how much would you cut down?
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    Originally Posted by kisrobyyy View Post
    Most of the exercises I've been doing in these past months some of them with a coach, the only ones I have problem with and trying to correct them are the bench press and deadlift. So really, I don't think that would be a problem, so do you suggest that I should cut down in volume a little bit? May I ask how much would you cut down?
    I think you should follow an established routine rather than trying to make your own, is the short version. A know-good routine is going to be better than something you make, or I make for you by altering yours.

    Not having good form on the deadlift is a great way to have back pain for the rest of your life, just sayin'. Bench press, shoulders.

    You were given good feedback in your other thread, take it or leave it.
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    Hold off on creatine for another year. Get your routine and diet in order.

    The hair loss claim is mostly nonsense. One study with poor control and anecdotal evidence regarding DHT elevation.
    You have my word as a Schons.
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    Originally Posted by Hypernation View Post
    Hold off on creatine for another year. Get your routine and diet in order.

    The hair loss claim is mostly nonsense. One study with poor control and anecdotal evidence regarding DHT elevation.
    Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely try to progress without it for now.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Not having good form on the deadlift is a great way to have back pain for the rest of your life, just sayin'. Bench press, shoulders.
    Oh, sorry I wasn't clear with the deadlift. I haven't tried that one yet, it wasn't in my previous routine. I want to try it the first time this week.


    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I make for you by altering yours.
    Oh my god, if you could do that, it'd be awesome! I'd really appreciate it!
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    Originally Posted by kisrobyyy View Post
    Oh, sorry I wasn't clear with the deadlift. I haven't tried that one yet, it wasn't in my previous routine. I want to try it the first time this week.




    Oh my god, if you could do that, it'd be awesome! I'd really appreciate it!
    https://liftvault.com/programs/stren...for-beginners/
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