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    Cutting bulking cycle ?

    I have been going to the gym for almost 2 months and my calorie intake was around 1000-1500

    Strict cutting with only beneficial foods that are high in protein.

    I didn't think of bulking since I'm at like 17-19% bodyfat .

    Should I start bulking (my BMR is 2142) or should I just eat 2000calories a day ?
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    I have been going to the gym for almost 2 months and my calorie intake was around 1000-1500

    Strict cutting with only beneficial foods that are high in protein.

    I didn't think of bulking since I'm at like 17-19% bodyfat .

    Should I start bulking (my BMR is 2142) or should I just eat 2000calories a day ?
    You're under-eating even for a cut.

    What are your reasons for eating 1000-1500 calories if your BMR is 2142? And by BMR, do you mean TDEE or actual BMR? They are not the same thing.
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    OP is slightly confused.

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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    I have been going to the gym for almost 2 months and my calorie intake was around 1000-1500

    Strict cutting with only beneficial foods that are high in protein.

    I didn't think of bulking since I'm at like 17-19% bodyfat .

    Should I start bulking (my BMR is 2142) or should I just eat 2000calories a day ?
    OP what is your height/weight/age? Also, you should post a photo for the best advice.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    You're under-eating even for a cut.

    What are your reasons for eating 1000-1500 calories if your BMR is 2142? And by BMR, do you mean TDEE or actual BMR? They are not the same thing.
    actual BMR my TDEE is 3,504. I could try keto 2 weeks and go bulking 2 weeks ?
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    actual BMR my TDEE is 3,504. I could try keto 2 weeks and go bulking 2 weeks ?

    uhhhh... you're eating 1000-1500 calories when your TDEE is 3500?


    Srs question: Are you insane?


    WHY the fukk would you do that?


    Why not eat like 2750 calories a day and lose weight without suffering?
    The power of carbs compels me!
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    uhhhh... you're eating 1000-1500 calories when your TDEE is 3500?


    Srs question: Are you insane?


    WHY the fukk would you do that?


    Why not eat like 2750 calories a day and lose weight without suffering?
    I forget about hunger its easy for me
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    I forget about hunger its easy for me
    Suffering includes losing lean mass. If you've been doing this for 2 month, you've probably lost a lot of muscle.

    I'm betting you just can't count properly so it would be less.
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    I forget about hunger its easy for me
    Not important... you'll lose muscle mass, sleep, strength....

    Doesn't matter if you're not hungry.
    The power of carbs compels me!
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Suffering includes losing lean mass. If you've been doing this for 2 month, you've probably lost a lot of muscle.

    I'm betting you just can't count properly so it would be less.
    somehow got muscle went from 30kg bench to 60kg
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    somehow got muscle went from 30kg bench to 60kg
    That can all be attributed to motor learning. You went from well below average for untrained to a good starting level.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    That can all be attributed to motor learning. You went from well below average for untrained to a good starting level.
    So i should just start eating a lot lot more
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    You haven't told us your starting weight, current weight, goal weight, height, etc.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    You haven't told us your starting weight, current weight, goal weight, height, etc.
    i was 102kg now i'm 90kg goal weight 85kg height 190cm
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    i was 102kg now i'm 90kg goal weight 85kg height 190cm
    You should not be losing more than .85kg per week maximum

    That means you should not eat less than ~2550 calories a day if your TDEE is 3500
    The power of carbs compels me!
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    You should not be losing more than .85kg per week maximum

    That means you should not eat less than ~2550 calories a day if your TDEE is 3500
    Will start doing that for sure. I will for sure learn from my mistakes
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    Originally Posted by Hamzabrzi View Post
    Will start doing that for sure. I will for sure learn from my mistakes
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