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    Introducing front squats

    After years of back squatting twice per week, with the exception of swapping in fronts to recover from low back injuries, I’ve decided to swap them in once per week for the following reasons:

    Low back has been giving me **** so I’ll be doing them on deadlift day

    Quad growth ain’t so hot

    Nor is back squat progress

    They’re fun

    So, questions:

    I usually squat before deadlifting for the low back (deadlift can’t crush you if you fail) and for a bit of a warmup. Since spinal loading and overall posterior chain fatigue won’t be as much of an issue, but warming up is still a thing, should I squat before or after deads? I want to bring my deadlift #s up, and for fronts I’m more concerned about hypertrophy. Deadlifts are 2x4-6 and fronts will be 3x7-10. I still have to consider upper back involvement, right?

    Should I expect my back squat so suffer from reduced frequency, or can fronts still effectively count as overall squat frequency and help my back squat? Back squats will be run 4x6-8 if it matters.
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    I’d do front squats after deadlifts.

    Front squats carryover to back squats and Vice versa.
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    I forgot to say that I really *want* to deadlift first for a change of pace. But that I was worried too about front squats’ carryover to back squats when their progress is going to be impacted by sort of putting them on the backburner, and like... could I lose some of the groove of busting into the gym and attacking squats right off the bat? I guess it’ll either be that or the reverse, just in that I’d be benefiting from the reduced monotony or something. I’ve been missing some variety, I think.
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    I think it depends person to person

    For me front squats were literally just a mid/upper back exercise, I could never do enough weight for my legs. My back would always try and fold over long before my legs got a workout. Maybe thats just cause my back strength lags though

    Some people swear by them for quads though
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    Yup that’s why I’m worried about the back fatigue.
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    Originally Posted by Xpiro View Post
    Yup that’s why I’m worried about the back fatigue.
    There are alternatives to front squats….

    SSB squats

    Leg presses with legs close to the bottom of the platform

    Landmine front squats

    Hack squats

    Just to name a few….
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    Belt squats if back fatigue is the issue.
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    If you're still back squatting at least occasionally then you won't lose any neural efficiency. The only limitation could be upper back strength as Savior said.

    Probably the benefits will outweigh any drawbacks.

    Landmine front squats and belt squats are good options. Constant tension squats are a sick hypertrophy pump but they won't help your lower back rest.
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