Reply
Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    Registered User Bremster1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2021
    Age: 51
    Posts: 3
    Rep Power: 0
    Bremster1 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Bremster1 is online now

    conflicting info on the internet, advice on body fat and nutrition

    Dear,

    This is my first post here. I have looked through the "common posts" & "look before posting", but if this is not the right place for my question, I'm sorry.

    I have been trying to get in better shape lately. I am 20 years old, 188cm long male and one year ago I weighed only 66kg (I had ADHD pills that supressed my hunger). Ive since gotten off them, and am now sitting around 74 kg. Since last january, I purchased a metal power station, and begun doing pull ups. I was able to do 0 at first, and now I can do about 7, so theres improvement there. Little over a month ago, the gyms opened up, and I have stopped using the power station, focussing on going to the gym. I have posted my routine in the comments below. I went 3-4 times a week at first, and as of last week I will be going 5 times a week. All my research points towards one thing I need to master in order to grow as efficiently as possible: bulking and cutting.

    My problem is that I cannot nail down this body fat thing. We have an electronic scale in our gym, and callippers, but when I google, both of these seem to be inaccurate. I do not have access to other measurement methods. On the other hand, the internet says that if you have below 15% bodyfat, your abs should be visible. The electronic scale says I have 10.5% bodyfat (and the metabolic age of a 12 year old..?), but I do not have clearly visible abs, and also it appears as though I have a small amount of belly fat.

    Basically what I am getting at is, how do I find out whether I should cut or bulk? I was hoping you guys could tell from some pictures which of these two would apply. I have attached them below.

    For now, my diet is as follows:
    Breakfast: 150g Skyr Yogurt, 180g blueberries, 80g oats, a cup of coffee (447 kcal, 28.2g protein)
    Lunch: 4 slices of whole grain bread, 4 slices chicken breast, 40g filet americain (479 kcal, 28.2g protein)
    Post-Workout: 200ml milk + 30g of whey protein powder (228 kcal, 31.2g protein)
    Dinner varies greatly because Im still living at home (for the next 3 months or so, after that it should be easier) and thus do not control what we eat. We do however almost always eat meat of some sorts during dinner.
    I have a mostly sedentary lifestyle, except that I workout almost every day for aprox 50-60 mins.
    I do snack sometimes inbetween, but its often not healthy - think cheese, salami, chips. Fruit too, but they are such few calories. I am a very difficult eater, due to sensory processing disorder, and heavily favour crispy foods. What can I eat to healthily increase my kcal (In case I should bulk and not cut)? I like pistacchio nuts, would eating a handful of those be beneficial? Or should I take a cup of milk with 30g protein powder before sleeping as well? Also I do not want to be counting calories with everything I eat - I believe this teaches me an unhealthy relationship towards food. Rather I want some wiggle room to eat some unhealthy snacks every once in a while: is this possible?

    Once again I am sorry if this is not the right place, if it isnt, could you perhaps points me to the right subforum? Its just that it is legit impossible to find out online whether my body fat levels are of such degree that I should bulk or cut, since its case specific and I cannot find an accurate way of measuring. I figured that some of you health-experts might be able to roughly estimate what applies to me. If you guys can help me on my way I can definetely take it from there, researching the various theories and methods behind fitness is part of the fun!

    Many thanks for taking your time to read my long post, any advice is welcome!
    Kind regards,
    Bremster1

    PS: I just posted this and see it says my age is 51 - this is not true! Im going to look where I can change that.
    Last edited by Bremster1; Today at 06:21 AM.
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Moderator SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 52,761
    Rep Power: 1328888
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    I would not say that bulking and cutting is the key to success... doing a proper training routine is. You only mentioned pullups which only trains a small proportion of the muscle in your body. Perhaps you are doing other training you didn't mention but this is still the focus of what you must do.

    You don't have to "bulk" and pile on fat to gain muscle. You do have to be in a calorie deficit to lose fat but you don't need to know your exact BF% to do this. And you won't easily get an exact number either BIA scales are pretty useless - as you discovered.

    Looking at your pictures, I can see your BF is not very high but you do lack muscle - gaining muscle will be what makes a difference.

    As I mentioned, get on a proper whole body routine like Fierce 5. Eat at around maintenance calories and get at least 130g of protein per day.
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User Bremster1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2021
    Age: 51
    Posts: 3
    Rep Power: 0
    Bremster1 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Bremster1 is online now
    Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch View Post
    I would not say that bulking and cutting is the key to success... doing a proper training routine is. You only mentioned pullups which only trains a small proportion of the muscle in your body. Perhaps you are doing other training you didn't mention but this is still the focus of what you must do.

    You don't have to "bulk" and pile on fat to gain muscle. You do have to be in a calorie deficit to lose fat but you don't need to know your exact BF% to do this. And you won't easily get an exact number either BIA scales are pretty useless - as you discovered.

    Looking at your pictures, I can see your BF is not very high but you do lack muscle - gaining muscle will be what makes a difference.

    As I mentioned, get on a proper whole body routine like Fierce 5. Eat at around maintenance calories and get at least 130g of protein per day.
    Ah sorry, I wasnt sure whether I should include that since this is the nutrition forum. I do:
    1: Chest tricep
    5x5x45kg bench press
    3x12x66kg chest fly
    3x12x16,3kg chest fly (bands)
    3x12x10kg decline bench press
    3x12x32kg triceps pushdown
    3x12x14kg pullover (dumbbel)

    2: Legs
    I do all of these 3x12:
    79kg seated leg press
    45kg leg extension
    52kg seated leg curl
    45kg hib abductor & adductor
    8kg both hands standing calf raise

    3: Back bicep
    once again, 3x12
    45kg lat pulldown
    41kg seated row (machine)
    45kg pec deck machine in the reversal mode (so its for your back)
    39kg seated row(cable)
    9kg bicep curl

    4: cardio and abs exercises

    I try to do it to muscle failure, which is usually 12, sometimes 11 or 10.

    I might want to add squatting and deadlifting to my routine, however, I am scared of doing this because I have anterior pelvic tilt and am afraid to damage something
    Last edited by Bremster1; Today at 06:25 AM.
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Honest Avatar faithbrah's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2018
    Posts: 2,253
    Rep Power: 24055
    faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) faithbrah has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    faithbrah is online now
    unless you're training six times a week, you should stick to a simple full body routine 3x/week

    i also have APT (anterior pelvic tilt) and can squat normally. conventional deadlifts feel awkward so i do romanian deadlifts instead
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User Bremster1's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2021
    Age: 51
    Posts: 3
    Rep Power: 0
    Bremster1 is on a distinguished road. (+10)
    Bremster1 is online now
    Originally Posted by faithbrah View Post
    unless you're training six times a week, you should stick to a simple full body routine 3x/week

    i also have APT (anterior pelvic tilt) and can squat normally. conventional deadlifts feel awkward so i do romanian deadlifts instead
    For the summer months I want to do 5-6 times a week. Since I am still in the beginning though, would you recommend I go less?
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Moderator SuffolkPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2007
    Location: Suffolk, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
    Posts: 52,761
    Rep Power: 1328888
    SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz SuffolkPunch has the mod powerz
    SuffolkPunch is offline
    I am still recommending a routine like Fierce 5. I realise that you probably put some effort into this but if you were to switch to something like F5 (or one of the other routines from the sticky threads) you will be getting the experience and knowledge of the expert who designed it, specifically for novices. In particular, one of the main benefits is planned progressive overload. The fact that you've specified weights in your routine suggests you are doing the same thing each time - which is not going to lead to improvement.

    There are several other issues we commonly see with routines like this but for brevity, I won't trot them out here again.
    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts