If you just want to get a return around the market's return?
Makes no sense.
Are mutual funds a huge scam? We already know they barely beat the market, and they definitely don't after fees.
I think individual stock trading is also a scam pushed by brokers. Unless you're a phd math working in a hedge fund, I don't see how it's possible for you to consistently generate alpha.
Seems like it's all BS srs.
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Today, 09:52 AM #1
Why would you invest in mutual funds/individual stocks instead of ETFs if...?
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Mutual funds are a decent way to learn, that’s where I started, but fees eat into the gains you do make until you accumulate enough to move into lower fee brackets etc
Individual stocks can be good if you know what you know, leverage it, and hold long-term. But most people are better off just trying an index or whatever and forgetting about it
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Today, 10:32 AM #7
You're conflating a few things here - Do you mean index funds? ETF's and Mutual funds can both be actively managed or passively managed (index funds).
If you're not in a qualified tax-advantaged account (IRA, 401k, etc) then an ETF will have a tax benefit of avoiding income taxes.
If you're a believer in the Efficient Markets Hypothesis, then randomly buying individual stocks should on average net you the same as an index fund. Your upside potential should be the same as your downside risk. An index fund is just evening/averaging it out.
Active management isn't dead. I think they're still useful in certain areas (bond market is an obvious one). But if you're a retail investor you're better off (in my opinion) buying an index fund rather than trying to compare actively managed funds.Operation Swole.
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Today, 10:46 AM #8
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Yeh most people are almost surely better off just buying an index, but I think individual investors can do well buying stocks if they have specialized knowledge. I work in O&G and that's what I invest in, mainly because I almost have insider knowledge about stuff that companies are doing and I spend 50hrs+/week knees deep in the industry
Warren Buffett would say that the key is identifying your area of competence, valuing businesses within that area of competence, and then buying what sells for the lowest price in relation to value
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just buy SPY for you'll regret it.
If youre really good or really lucky you might beat the s&p for a year or two. one bad year and it will set you back a decade. (if youre down 30%, you need to make approx 48% to get back to even etc)
buffet says when he passes his fortune is to be left for his wife in the S&P 500. enough said.
dont over think it.
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