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    Is it wrong to not get Vaccinated for covid?(srs)

    99.98% of being fine, vaccine came pretty quick.. idk, I got all my vaccines before I’m not anti vax; this just came very quick and I’ll let everyone else do it and see the results in a few years.

    Also, why the eff does everyone post themselves getting vaccinated?! “ look at me!!! I’m helpinggg!! Validate meee”

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    it's not wrong to not want it, that's a personal choice

    it's wrong to deny science and facts, and the overwhelming majority of people that fall under that train of thought are anti-vaxx(spread misinformation)

    most level headed people won't deny the vaccine, as 44.1% of Americans adults have 1 dose
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    It's not wrong.

    A wait and see approach is perfectly valid. There is no long term data. No one can tell you otherwise because there isn't.

    All we can do right now is calculate probability of long term side effects by comparing to prior vaccines but who knows how accurate that is when you're using new technology... no one knows.

    I work extensively with data and do analysis for a living and when something is new you do your best to extrapolate out short term results into the long term but it's not as reliable as when you have data that spans a longer term.

    They really have less than a year of a data... so anyone who is telling you that nothing will happen in 10 years is just giving an estimate. Which is fine when it's business and money, you can take that 80% certainty and you can limit your risk by limiting your investment but when it's your body and a medical intervention it's just completely different ballgame.

    I will wait and see as well.

    However I am glad my 65 year old mom and my 90 year old grandparents got it. It makes sense for them to get it.
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    The covid survival rate is nearly 100%

    It doesnt need a vaccine.

    The vaccine is f*coking with your mRNA

    Getting it is very stupid and irresponsible
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    Originally Posted by xbluexhawkx View Post
    it's not wrong to not want it, that's a personal choice

    it's wrong to deny science and facts, and the overwhelming majority of people that fall under that train of thought are anti-vaxx(spread misinformation)

    most level headed people won't deny the vaccine, as 44.1% of Americans adults have 1 dose
    hahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahaha

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    Originally Posted by xbluexhawkx View Post
    it's not wrong to not want it, that's a personal choice

    it's wrong to deny science and facts, and the overwhelming majority of people that fall under that train of thought are anti-vaxx(spread misinformation)

    most level headed people won't deny the vaccine, as 44.1% of Americans adults have 1 dose


    This.



    You'll guaranteed see many posts in this thread of bat **** misinformation, those people should be forcefully neutered. However choosing to not take a vaccine is obviously personal choice. Especially for a virus with such a low death rate amongst the healthy.
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    Is it logically and factually wrong to think the vaccine will make you sterile and be worse for you than Covid? Yeah that’s wrong

    But is it morally wrong? Idk. I’d recommend you getting get but I don’t think anybody should be able to force you to.
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    Originally Posted by Condo41 View Post
    The covid survival rate is nearly 100%

    It doesnt need a vaccine.

    The vaccine is f*coking with your mRNA

    Getting it is very stupid and irresponsible
    Ok OP, see here, this is what’s wrong lol
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    No.

    I'm young and healthy so covid is basically a non threat. There are very real potential side effects to the vaccine that are getting downplayed by people who desperately want you to take it. no thanks
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    Originally Posted by WHChampion View Post
    No.

    I'm young and healthy so covid is basically a non threat. There are very real potential side effects to the vaccine that are getting downplayed by people who desperately want you to take it. no thanks
    There’s significantly worse potential side effects from covid though
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    Is it logically and factually wrong to think the vaccine will make you sterile and be worse for you than Covid? Yeah that’s wrong
    This guy can see into the future and knows the long-term effects of the vaccine, in for lottery numbers.

    I already had covid, the flu for me was much worse. It does NOT make sense for me to take it.
    Would kick em in the nuts
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    There’s significantly worse potential side effects from covid though
    Such as?
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    Originally Posted by Antoine99 View Post
    This guy can see into the future and knows the long-term effects of the vaccine, in for lottery numbers.

    I already had covid, the flu for me was much worse. It does NOT make sense for me to take it.
    the only people bringing up the "disastrous" long term effects are people who have no idea what they're talking about. fact.
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    Originally Posted by Glutebrahhh View Post
    Such as?
    I mean, off the very top of my head loss of taste and smell. I have a healthy 27 year old friend who got covid last year and still can’t taste food.

    https://blogs.bcm.edu/2021/02/09/wha...s-of-covid-19/
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    Originally Posted by Antoine99 View Post
    This guy can see into the future and knows the long-term effects of the vaccine, in for lottery numbers.

    I already had covid, the flu for me was much worse. It does NOT make sense for me to take it.
    Didn’t realize I was talking specifically about you.

    N = 1

    There’s significant more side effects from covid than the vaccine, don’t take it if you don’t want, but these are just numbers. For the average person the vaccine is much less likely to have sides than covid. (Inb4 the numbers are fake)
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    I’m not an anti-vaxxer but I don’t get flu shots and I also don’t want to get COVID vaxx for now. Might get it in the future once it’s been around longer. Or maybe once they approve it for kids.
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    Originally Posted by xbluexhawkx View Post
    the only people bringing up the "disastrous" long term effects are people who have no idea what they're talking about. fact.
    Why do you have this much faith in chit that was rushed out? Was giving blood clots part of the AztraZeneca plan?

    And like I said any side effects are getting downplayed by people who desperately want you to take the vaccine.
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    Nobody knows with absolute certainty what will happen long-term. Just have to take in the information available and base your decision on what you feel is best for your situation whichever direction that is. You can't base it on pseudo intellectual miscers patting themselves on the back for attention.
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    Originally Posted by Silencespeaks View Post
    I’m not an anti-vaxxer but I don’t get flu shots.
    But y
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    But y
    Flu shots are for sick and elderly and those that care for them. Doesn't make sense for other to take them.
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    I have had COVID. Tested positive(twice), lost senses of smell and taste, and made strength gains on my almost 3 weeks of paid time off while waiting for two back to back negative tests.

    Would rather go through that again than find out what the effects of an untested, hastily made vaccine is gonna do to me.


    I am definitely not anti-vax either. Thanks to my time in the Navy, I am pretty sure I am vaccinated for chit that I am unaware of.
    You would be surprised just how much time I have to waste.
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    Originally Posted by jn677 View Post
    Flu shots are for sick and elderly and those that care for them. Doesn't make sense for other to take them.
    Not one scientist or doctor will agree with this logic.

    Flu shots are only about 40-60% effective, an elderly person who has the flu shot can still easily catch the flu and get terribly sick from it.

    It’s important for everybody to get it to reach a higher level of heard immunity and protect others

    Flu vaccines have been around for a long time, it’s not some new thing that we don’t understand. I’d put being anti flu shot in the anti vax catagory.
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    Didn’t realize I was talking specifically about you.

    N = 1

    There’s significant more side effects from covid than the vaccine, don’t take it if you don’t want, but these are just numbers. For the average person the vaccine is much less likely to have sides than covid. (Inb4 the numbers are fake)
    This is the problem; I had "sides" from covid, I lost taste and smell for a few days. I can get "sides" from the vaccine too, like blood clots. Just mincing words here.
    Would kick em in the nuts
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    Ok OP, see here, this is what’s wrong lol
    I'm not wrong though.

    Pull up the numbers yourself.

    98+% survival rate.

    I'm not just mouthing off yall, this is the all in number for all covid19 history as best we know.

    Take just 2020 numbers as an isolated year and the survivability is upwards of 99.75%

    These %'s use the botched covid death numbers like if you got in a car accident In 2020 and they test your dead body for covid and you have it, its counted as a covid death.

    The amount of people dying of legit covid-centric complications makes the survivability go up even more.

    I'm not just saying numbers. These are studied documented CDC reports. Just Google "covid-19 survival statistics" and choose the webMD and CDC sources.

    So explain how I'm wrong please.
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    Originally Posted by Condo41 View Post
    I'm not wrong though.

    Pull up the numbers yourself.

    98+% survival rate.

    I'm not just mouthing off yall, this is the all in number for all covid19 history as best we know.

    Take just 2020 numbers as an isolated year and the survivability is upwards of 99.75%

    I'm not just saying numbers. These are studied documented CDC reports.

    So explain how I'm wrong please.
    Survival rate is 98.2, a HUGE difference from100% and not even remotely close. Eventually every American will get covid, every 1% is 3 million + deaths dude.

    What does "it doesnt need a vaccine" even mean? Vaccines purpose is to reach herd immunity, lower deaths, and lower hospitalization, thats what its doing.

    The vaccine does not "**** with your mrna" the vaccine does not enter the nucleus of your cells where your DNA is stored so it does not change anything.
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    Originally Posted by navid93 View Post
    But y
    - Never had the flu that I know of

    - I’m healthy so I think I would survive fine

    - Only 50% effective

    - Annual shot instead of longer coverage

    - Don’t want exposure to side effects
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