I am NOT a vegan or a vegetarian. In fact I struggle to eat veggies for a number of reasons. Though I hear a lot of vegans or plant based people attribute lack of protein and muscle development due to low calorie intakes. Which makes sense. (Too big of a calorie deficit) As long as one is getting enough calories supporting health and performance, consistently training with progress, checking all the other boxes off, muscle should develop? Not saying to avoid protein macronutrient, or that food sources don’t matter. I am wondering how efficient is the human body in extracting amino acids from various foods when not given concentrated sources of protein? Ie meat.
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Thread: Not meeting protein macros
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03-14-2021, 11:11 AM #1Registered User
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Not meeting protein macros
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03-14-2021, 11:36 AM #2Moderator
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Protein dosing as it relates to muscle gain has been very well studied.
The numbers we recommend are generally the highest protein intakes which have been shown to provide a benefit compared to less protein intake. At some point you have more than you need - but less could lead to less muscle development.
This has been inferred from real data gathered objectively from groups of subjects under controlled conditions. If you simply ask for anecdotes, you leave yourself wide open to speculation and confirmation bias. That's why studies are designed how they are designed.
The effect of variables such as net calorie balance and protein intake can be distinguished if you use enough statistical rigor.
Bottom line: if you shortchange protein, you probably are not doing as well as you could be - but that's not the same thing as saying you'll get nothing at all...
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03-14-2021, 11:44 AM #3Registered User
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Thank you for replying Suffolk Punch! That makes sense. I guess it also depends on goals. Also genetics too.Originally Posted by SuffolkPunch
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03-14-2021, 12:02 PM #4Super Spreader
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The human body is pretty efficient and adaptive. But ESSENTIAL things like essential amino acids must come from diet. If you don’t get them your body can’t just produce them magically from calories. Its kind of like saying, if I stop breathing, but I drink enough water, can’t i just get my oxygen from water?Originally Posted by goldenerafan
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03-14-2021, 12:53 PM #5team ketchup
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There is some truth to the idea that certain plant-based protein sources have a lower digestibility and absorption affinity compared to animal sources.
You can look for information about the Protein Digestability-Corrected Amino Acid Score if you’re curious about it.The power of carbs compels me!
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03-14-2021, 03:13 PM #6Registered User
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Yeah just it sucks having digestion issues. I am seeing a Gastrologist.Originally Posted by desslok
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