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Jaguar I-Pace Or Tesla Model S 75D? The Winner Might Surprise You
NOV 20 2018 BY VANJA KLJAIC 75
The Jaguar I-Pace signifies a big leap for Jag into the electric car segment.
However different, the Tesla Model S 75D and the Jaguar I-Pace are similar in many areas. Both of them represent vehicles that are built to rule their respective markets and both try to bring a dose of luxury in the electric vehicle world. The Model S 75D is a bit longer in the tooth, while the I-Pace signifies the ramp-up in the brewing war for the higher-end electric vehicle market.
More about the Jaguar I-Pace and the Tesla Model S P75D
Performance wise, these two are rather similar. The Jaguar I-Pace is powered by a dual motor setup that comes with a 90kWh battery. The Model S 75D comes with the same dual motor setup, however, it’s fitted with a slightly smaller capacity 75kWh battery. The vehicles come with similar power: 362 horsepower and 486lb-ft of torque for the Tesla and 394 horsepower and 513lb-ft of torque for the Jaguar. In simple 0-60mph (0-97km/h) terms, the vehicles do that sprint in 4.5 seconds and 4.2 seconds for the Jaguar and Tesla, respectively.
Price wise, they are once again, quite similar. Right now, U.S pricing-wise, the Jaguar I-Pace starts at $69,500 and the Tesla will set you back $66,200, making them most likely choices for any owner looking for an EV in that price range. However, Tesla is headed for a phase-out of the federal tax credit, while Jaguar is still able to offer the $7,500 that the federal government gives EV buyers across the nation. With all these items taken into account, it’s no wonder that What Car decided to put these two in a rather in-depth test drive comparison. The end result? Quite interesting.
If you read the September edition of What Car? magazine, you’ll have seen a different outcome in this very same test, with the Model S coming out on top. But a couple of things have changed since then.
The automotive publication praises both the I-Pace and the Model S in several categories. However, in the end, the verdict is a bit surprising. What Car dubs this an extremely close-run thing, but in the end, the I-Pace clinches the win. What Car doesn’t think that the I-Pace is as quite as good to drive as the Model S (it’s a crossover, after all), nor is it as practical. However, they feel that the real-world range, paired with the ownership costs – two crucial areas for EV ownership – are tipping the scales in Jaguar’s favor. Furthermore, they also think that the I-Pace is more comfortable and classier inside. Interesting.
For those interested, you can read the full comparison review of the Tesla Model S 75D and the Jaguar I-pace right here. While the winner is a bit surprising, we can certainly see why the I-Pace – in their opinion – is a winner in the end. It’s one of the best looking EVs on the market today, it’s well built and however great the Model S is, it’s a vehicle that’s been out there for some time. And that makes it vulnerable for all the upcoming challengers in the mid-range electric luxury vehicle market, that’s for sure.
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75 Comments on "Jaguar I-Pace Or Tesla Model S 75D? The Winner Might Surprise You"
ipace has less range than Bolt, uses same CCS that must wait at practically every DCFC site for some free charging Leaf, i3, Maven Bolt. Its basically similar (or worse) experience than Bolt that can be bought for $25K (or $22K) post subsidy. On top of that, iPace has the worst efficiency among any EV.
The real question is why is anyone choosing the ipace over ANY other car?
If you have ipace money, you can certainly afford a Tesla that “looks” lot better. About the only thing “good” about ipace is that it’s not Leaf. I think I just answered my question: ipace for those people who’s only alternative is Leaf. But even that’s questionable at 2X Leaf price, especially since Leaf will (hopefully) be a real EV in 2019.
Why do people buy a an XF (or any premium sedan) over an Accord/Corolla? That’s basically the comparison you’re making.
If Tesla S is Accord/Corolla, what is ipace? Geo Metro? Yugo? Trabant?
The Bolt is the Accord, the I-Pace is the XF. Your original comment was discussing how the I-Pace is apparently worse than a Bolt. They’re two different segments, one mainstream, one premium. People buy premium vehicles for things other than those you listed.
Maybe the Tesla is a BMW 5 series? Some people choose the XF over the 5 Series due to personal preference.
Yet you replied to my comment that Tesla S costs similar to ipace. But fair enough, some people did buy Yugo, and I’m sure some would buy Trabant if available and cost as much as Accord.
If you have ipace money, you can certainly afford a Tesla that “looks” lot better.
That is very subjective a POV. A lot of people think Tesla’s look bland. That’ another subjective POV.
Subjective, sure, but I think the vast majority of people will agree Tesla S looks whole lot better.
“vast majority”? I’d be interested to see a poll on that. Let’s see thumbs up or down on your post! I’ll get the ball rolling 😉
If biased sampling is your criteria, sure, let’s see just how many people are biased (ie, all negative votes to my comment)
Maybe the negative votes to your comment are unbiased people who honestly disagree with the opinion you expressed in your comment.
Offtopic, do you have a “chevy bolt ev UNOFFICIAL blog”?
Given the choice I would still buy Tesla, however I think I-Pace looks a bit better and the Mission-E a lot better than the Teslas.
However, I would still buy Tesla because of reasons aside from looks.
Looks are not the only reason people buy cars.
Why would anyone pay $85,500 for a colored model “X” (I have never and will never own a black car – the only way to get the cheapest dirt price) – compared to the I-Pace which is a cool $16,000 LESS.
While the I-pace reliability is unsure – with the “X” you are certain to get the worst reliability passenger vehicle available for sale in the USA, per Consumer Reports.
This is comparing S, not X. But you do raise a valid point. Tesla’s strongest competitor is Tesla itself.
I dig that you call it coloured! It’s technically accurate, too, since black isn’t a colour. Thumb: UP
😂
Is this the same CR that just a few month before said how great Teslas were?
I wonder HOW they do their ratings.
The Model X has consistently been terrible in CR reliability polls.
The Model S has been on a roller coaster on CR reliability polls based on improvements and fixes that are implemented along the way, plus age of the fleet (more time for things to start failing).
The Model 3 tanked early in CR reliability polls, but it is on the rise, now that a majority of the early manufacturing gaffes have been rectified.
Of course, overall customer satisfaction remains extraordinarily high, per CR polls.
..?? The Tesla they compare with here, the S 75D, is already a bit more expensive than the Jag after incentives (aka actual cost). It’s pretty reasonable to assume that most prospective buyers of either car parts enough taxes to utilize the full deduction.
Maybe you think the Tesla looks better. I think the Jag looks much better, inside and out. But I’ve never liked American cars’ design, or not since the 60s muscle cars at least (the late 60s Corvette Stingray looks awesome, but never was awesome, alas). There’s something quite vulgar about the Teslas, IMO, especially the Model X. It’s not just big, it’s very imposing, unfriendly somehow, almost threatening. On the outside, Model 3 is a huge improvement. The interior is so different and unique that it’s hard to compare, but vulgar isn’t the word that comes to mind first at least. 🙂
Why Not buy the I-Pace? There are almost triple the number of CCS 50kW chargers within 50 miles of me than there are SC’s. Several of those 50kW CP’s will be upgraded to 100kW within 3-4 months and a load of others will get 150kW before the end of 2019.
Range isn’t everything when you have a good density of chargers. There are parts of the UK that are really badly served by the SC network yet from the maps of CP’s I can see many 50kW CCS chargers in those areas.
If you want a minimalist interior then go for the Tesla. If you want a more traditional look go for the Jag.
I cant afford either a Tesla or a JAG so I’ll have to stay with my PHEV for now.
“Range isn’t everything when you have a good density of chargers.”
Except when you have to charge much more often and it takes longer.
Driving at 80 mph from LA to Monterrey in a Model X (granted it was a 100D) wasted no time. I wanted to stop about every time the X needed charging . Supercharging took the same time as a good meal or stretch/pee/walk. Buddy in the iPace stopped way more often, charging was so slow he had to wait half an hour after eating. In the end the iPace arrived hours behind the X.
You don’t need DCFC within 50 miles, so that’s the least relevant area you could choose to compare!
But now that Tesla is going the CCS2 route in Europe, don’t you think they’ll likely do the same in the US, when VW gets going a bit better with their Electrify America chargers..?
I love love love that M3 got CCS in Europe. If they don’t take too long to equip superchargers with the CCS plug (in addition to their old modified Type 2), the S and X will need an adapter to have access to an equal charging network.
If only it had more buttons. And a heated wheel. And Android Auto. And was a hatchback. It’d be perfect…
Question, how do you know they will be upgraded?
Not saying they will not, just asking if there was a mailing or a newspaper ad to let you know the timing and which would be upgraded.
I-pace vs the Bolt? I’m a satisfied owner of my Bolt ev but it is like why would someone buy a Bentley when they can buy a Ford Focus?
If you exclude a very bad lease, i-pace beats Model S in any category important for a car. On EV side – yes, Model S has a better designed battery and motors. However “better” doesn’t mean I-Pace is problematic in this area
The incumbents, and many buyers, don’t seem to understand how key efficiency is in EVs. They are much in the same mindset as ICE, where consumption is hardly about anything more than running costs.
But EVs are very different, because a kilogramme of batteries can only store about 4% of the energy in a kg of gasoline. Low consumption leads to less battery, less cost, less weight, more range, more agility, more acceleration — and faster charging.
Bjørn Nyland didn’t want to have a race between i-Pace and the Ioniq because it would be too boring — the Ioniq would win by nearly two hours. He even took the time to show his spreadsheet and the calculations. Of course it’s still a disadvantage to have to stop more often to charge, and have less freedom to venture into areas with poor coverage, but it’s still something to think about!
If I could afford it, I’d choose the iPace over every other car.
Criteria:
Less than 192” so it’ll fit in my garage (TMS & TMX are too long)
EV with 200+ mile range
Comfortable: I had every intention of buying a Bolt until I sat in it. I wasn’t comfortable; personal preference.
Somewhat unique (TM3 is very common in Portland, OR, which is awesome, but I’d prefer a more unique car)
Current car is a Clarity PHEV
i thought the X starts at 84,000? not 66,200. ??
The X??? The X is 38cm longer, 10cm higher, has more than twice the cargo space.
As explained, even the S is much bigger and the 3 is much closer to the i-Pace than the S
They are comparing it to the S in the article, not the X.
oh, me and my assumptions
‘What Backseat’? Looking forward to another lux EV arriving.
Interesting how the Supercharging network vs. CCS was left out of the equation. That’s a big deal and can’t be underscored enough. Long distance travel is a huge reason folks want long range from EV’s, and leaving that out of the discussion makes no sense.
Yeah, you are so much better off having a CCS car. Tesla will now even sell a CCS adapter for the S&X to make up for this downfall.
I love when the argument is made that it is better to have 60 charging station compared to the 3600 from Tesla.
Especially when Tesla announced that Tesla owners will also have access to CCS chargers,… when it will be a thing! 😁
There are more CCS charging stations than Tesla stations in Europe now AND by the end of next year there will probably be more (or at least a similar number of) fast charging CCS stations in both the US and Europe than superchargers.
I thought the argument was that there were enough supercharger stations now, so it doesn’t matter if there are now more?
And how many of those charging stations are capable of > 100 kW?
Even < 100 kW is better than no charger at all..
Hundreds within the next year.
Which is more beneficial, and how beneficial it is will be very dependent on where you live and what sort of thing you do with your car.
Or, you know, your numbers aren’t applicable for the UK.
You must never used an EV to travel much. Tesla’s SC work and are fast. CCS are often broken and slow. No contest there. I hope CCS improves but right now it falls short.
Or live in that tiny little spot on the map marked “not the US”. When I first got my LEAF in 2015 I had a few problems with fast chargers. Only once that I can recall was the problem not solved by calling support (the phone number is on the charger). And in at least the past year and a half every charger I’ve used has worked just fine.
Not that I have any reason to believe Tesla’s network isn’t as good, or better. But I do get the impression the US is a few years behind also with the public DCFC infrastructure.
You can have CCS, with all it’s fewer locations and slower charge speed. I’ll take Supercharging with more locations and faster charging. We both get what we want, right on!
Long distance travel is a huge reason airlines exist. Turo solves the “last mile” problem in case you must drive EV all the time.
I do not get the “real world range” giving an edge to Jaguar.
The i-Pace has been showed having real range of 180-200km on the motorway (110-130km/h) whereas the S 75D has 330km i’ the same conditions (see for insta’ce NextMove tests).
When you add a 83kW max charging rate commared to the 98kW for the S which much better efficiency, this is clear that the Tesla is a much better car for long trip.
It seems like they did not really test the car and just took the WLTP range which is not representative of motorway range.
https://www.whatcar.com/news/what-car-real-range-how-we-work-it-out/n18158
There’s their methodology. It’s a UK based website and it’s rare to be sat on a motorway/highway doing 75mph for hours on end so a more mixed approach makes sense for it.
Obviously it’s not the be all and end all, especially for North American based people – where it’s quite common to set the cruise to 75-80 for hours on end – but for the average european it’s not too far off. Worth nothing the temperature at which they test too 10-15c, rather than potentially higher temperatures in other tests.
There’s also this snippet that may explain things too.
“Second, the first I-Pace we tested was a pre-production model, and software tweaks made since then have endowed the car a much more impressive real-world range.”
So maybe the shorter ranges reported elsewhere are for pre production vehicles too.
As a Canadian I hate driving over 70 MPH/115 KMH, I drive the I-75 from Detroit to Miami and back for most of the time, the crazy Americans pass me all the time. But while most pass me at the speed you expect if people are doing 75-80 MPH, some people blast past me at speeds that make me think they don’t believe in speed limits.
Also i-Pace owners are reporting software updates to the vehicle, that finally enables 100 kW charging.
Model S is EPA rated at 259 miles vs i-Pace at 234 yet somehow they managed i-Pace to decidedly beat Model S on “real world range”? Sounds odd, nor did they factor in that once that range runs out its a heck of a lot easier to find a 100KW+ quick charger for the Tesla than it is for i-Pace that can’t even use that sort of output even if you could find one.
Could it be they did a ‘standard (max 80% if I’m correct) charge’ on the Model S?
They do their testing at 10-15 degrees C so that may make a difference.
Could be an efficiency of heat pump vs inefficiency of resistive heating on Model S. Plus 15 more kWh in the battery
EPA ratings sadly aren’t as comparable as we might like. For some reason manufacturers are free to state a lower range than the test result (the manufacturers test themselves, according to the EPA-defined protocol, and the EPA just collects documentation). Jaguar downgraded the stated EPA range by 20% shortly after launch, and now probably have a very conservative number.
Tesla, btw, made the same move for Model 3, presumably because they want the S 100D to look like it has more range. The EPA test result for the RWD LR was 335 miles, but Tesla chose to put 310 miles on the sticker…
Yep, and CR got more than that on the updated LR RWD (no longer exists… LR is AWD only now).
“Jaguar I-Pace starts at $69,500 and the Tesla will set you back $66,200”
Why are we comparing the MSRP price of the iPace vs the “after savings” price that Tesla quotes? The MSRP of the model S is 78,000.
Plus $1,200 Delivery, but then you have to go to SE spec + options to equal Tesla’s included features ($80,325)
Check what you have in the S standard compared to the i-Pace. The S is basically standard like the HSE of the i-Pace.
The Jag has ventilated seats and other stuff you can’t get in a Tesla for money and good words.
What data are they going off of.for ownership cost of the Jag? Obviously not legacy Jag ownership costs… Sure, I’ll buy an ev from a car company natorious for electrical problems at 100k miles…
For Me it’s the Tesla Model S 75D..Hands Down ! …….. 🙂
Compare the iPace to the Model X.
If you believe the Jag is an SUV sure. But lets face facts. The Jag is a small cross over to anyone in the US. Perhaps it is a SUV in Europe. The Jag should really be squared off against the Model 3 since they are much closer in size.
The Model X isn’t an SUV either, it’s just a large crossover. There is a fairly significant size difference though as you say.
to small to compare with MX……… you can compare it to either MS75D or MODEL 3
“…. U.S pricing-wise, the Jaguar I-Pace starts at $69,500 and the Tesla will set you back $66,200,…..” FAKE NEWS.
HUH???? !!!!! Jag is more expensive than an “S” ? Are you kidding? What a joke. The cheapest “S” is $78,000. That is $8500 more than the I-Pace. On Price alone – the Jag seems to win. Inside, the Jag is a luxury interior, and the “S” – although every one of these blogger-articles claims they are a “luxury” car, Tesla has never made that claim – although you could call an “S” with the base interior ‘minimalist’.
Long term reliability with the I-pace still is a question mark, but the fact you can off-road the vehicle without destroying it is a big feather in its reliability cap. I was horrified when I saw those horrid ‘presenting’ door handles, but JAG fans assure me JAGUAR has perfected them and I shouldn’t have the issue I would have had with the “S”.
You forgot normal doors vs frameless. However frameless is not an issue if you live in CA near the coast.
The Jag looks nice, but motorway range is a turn-off.
I-pace seems more refined. Better interior design, sexy exterior, luxury and better materials inside.
Tesla is better in electric related stuff – more dive unit options and more efficient with also more batteries options.
I’m not surprised.
Exterior Look: Average ( Depends on Every Person)
Interior Look: Average ( Depends on Every Person)
Infotainment: Terrible (too many button)
Storage: below average(base on it’s class)
Performance: Comparable to TESLA model S 75D
Range: 234 miles EPA (Terrible since this one Uses 90KWH)
Hmmm… so, “it’s not as good as the S, but we like it better.” They are entitled to their opinion. Depends on what you’re going for, and the deliberately spartan interior of the S isn’t going to work for everyone’s tastes.
How is this a surprise? The I-Pace is years ahead of the Model X at least in terms of exterior and interior design. Its’ gorgeous aesthetics shouts exotics all the way. The difference in range is probably not a concern for most people because even the most frugal electric car suffers range anxiety and electric cars won’t be as convenient as ICE cars due to the small number of charging stations compared to gas station (until the next breakthrough comes for electric range, that is).