LIVE: Emerging farmers are doomed without access to capital – NGO at land hearings

2018-09-05 15:00

Parliamentary land hearings are continuing and MPs in the Constitutional Review Committee are still hearing oral arguments.

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WATCH LIVE: Parliament hearings on changing Section 25 of the Constitution | Day 2

(via SABC)

Parliament. (Duncan Alfreds, News24)
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15:17

The AFM (Apostolic Faith Mission) has wrapped up their discussion on the role of churches in the redistribution of land. They also touched on how municipalities could assist churches throughout this process. 

BLF is up next with their presentation, but the hearings adjourn for a short "comfort break".
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14:46
National Association of Democratic Lawyers tells CRC Mozambique nationalised all land in 1997. It stabilised its currency and attracted foreign investors #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
14:42
In Australia, 44% of land is leased, and 33% in the UK, says NADEL
14:40
MPs ask about the mechanism for land nationalisation
14:36
Land redistribution programmes have not achieved the goals they were meant to achieve, says NADEL
14:33
Laws should strike a balance
14:31
Parliament must pass the laws, not the courts, says National Association of Democratic Lawyers (NADEL)
14:28
Property compensation should not be applied where the property has been acquired under apartheid, says land expropriation submitter
14:17
MPs listen to oral submissions on changing section 25 of the Constitution
13:47

Cosatu STATEMENT:

"This federation is not shocked by these outrageous attacks directed at Cde Mathew Parks by these organised noisemakers and professional race hustlers. They are nothing but angry, self-pitying delusionists with the moral compass of an opportunistic infection. These creatures of bombastic nonsense thrive on any applause or social media likes that they can get through flippant name calling."

"Spouting abstract radical left positions, obsolete bravado and behaving like political Neanderthals is not enough to bring about the necessary changes to transform our economy. Economies are made up of people and the price for getting economic relations wrong is calamity. The fact that politics is vibrant does not mean its any good."
13:43
South African Institute of Black Property Practioners tells CRC land expropriation without reciprocal rights will not achieve redress #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
13:12
Chair announces a lunch recess to 13:30
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IRR says to CRC expropriation without compensation will lead to "radical deterioration of economy", is in "breach of the principle of fairness" and is a "red herring" #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
13:02

IRR STATEMENT:

The Institute of Race Relations (IRR) will today make its oral submission to the Parliamentary committee investigating the possibility of amending the Constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.  

The IRR and the 60 000 South Africans who endorsed its written submission will be represented by senior advocate, Mr Martin Brassey. He will contend that circumstances render the proposed constitutional amendment premature. For this reason, no competent amendment can be possible.  

The judiciary has not been tested on the matter of just compensation amounting to no compensation in any case. The legislature has not been tested in its capacity to pass laws that make explicit the conditions in which property may be expropriated, where just compensation might equal no compensation. The executive has also failed to implement its own policies.  

Corruption in land reform has been rife and the Parliamentary High-Level Panel, chaired by former President Kgalema Motlanthe, found "elite capture" to be a key stumbling block. Until such obstacles are removed no view can be taken on the Constitution's role as anything but a motivator for fair and justly implemented land reform, as well as protection from arbitrary power abuse, a corner stone of any democracy. Adv. Brassey looks forward to answering questions in the National Assembly, and spreading more light than heat.

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IRR tells CRC they are in favour redistribution. Current policies not being implemented properly. #SAonLand #Section25 @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
12:54
Section 25 applies to all property – not only agricultural land
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When I was listening to this presentation, it was like looking at a scarecrow - MP
12:35
Emerging farmers are doomed to failure without having access to capital, says Bhabha
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Bhabha says section 25 sufficiently covers expropriation without compensation
12:26
Ferguson says the State hasn't exercised a mandate up to now on bringing land matters to the court
12:25
Malcolm Ferguson of ITI says there are good models that exit on co-operative farming
12:21

Bhabha says the ITI found sufficient good will among farmers.  

White farmers have been underwriting debt, as an example

12:17
Malcolm Ferguson of In Transformation Initiative tells CRC it is a "crying shame" that state haven't transferred the farms it owns #Section25 #SAonLand @gerbjan
12:16
Dr Mohammed Bhabha of ITI says section 25 creates the framework legislation
12:11
ITI calls for a public private partnership on land reform, including skills transfer and market access
12:10
Up to 11% of the total land of SA is reflected in these farms (owned by the State) says ITI
12:09

ITI calls for sweeping legislation for land and agrarian reform  

The State is SA's largest farm owner

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Expropriation has not been tested by the government, says In Transformation Initiative
12:03
Dr Mohammed Bhabha of the In Transformation Initiative tells CRC expropriation without compensation "may not be panacea". Says there is sufficient goodwill in SA. #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
12:03
Collective disappointment in the government's assistance toward black and white farmers – In Transformation Initiative
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NGO In Transformation Initiative next to present
11:45
Chair announces a short comfort break adjournment
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Some sections of our farming communities have paid with their lives – they have been killed.  

Our proposal will reduce farm murders, says Matlala

11:32
Matlala breaks down as he talks about poor farmers
11:28

Section 25 is not clear; it's difficult; it creates arguments  

It must be reviewed, says Matlala

11:26

NAFU has the highest respect for traditional leaders  

They have made a valuable contribution to the establishment of the ANC, says Matlala

11:23
NAFU's Motsepe Matlala to CRC: "Ot should not be that our white compatriots continue to tell us what is good for us." #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
11:21
Our white compatriots should not tell us what is good for us, says Matlala
11:19
"Our presentation is actually based on the Freedom Charter which is actually very clear," says Matlala
11:18

Land is priceless  

But land should be differentiated from buildings, says Matlala

11:17
"We consider the land priceless. The land should not be sold," NAFU's Motsepe Matlala tells CRC. NAFU supports nationalisation. #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
11:16
NAFU's Motsepe Matlala says there should be an agricultural Codesa. "We can't say the white farmers must be wiped out," he tells CRC, and adds that the reality of black farmers' lack of access must also be dealt with #Section25 #SAonLand @TeamNews24 @gerbjan
11:12
Nationalising all land must include communal and traditional land
11:10
Water Act needs to be amended as well, says Matlala
11:10

Matlala calls for land nationalisation  

"Nobody can wish white people away. They are citizens of this country."

11:06
We are calling for a farming Codesa for our country - Matlala
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