
Porsche Teases Taycan: Claims 0 To 62 MPH In 3.5 Seconds
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Porsche clearly means business with their first all-electric car
Porsche is yet to reveal a real-life Taycan, let alone start production. But the Zuffenhausen based car maker is already making promoting their first all-electric vehicle as a top priority.
Pre-orders for this upcoming luxury sedan have already started in the United States and several other countries. Customers are able to do a Tesla-like deposit in order to get their vehicles among the first in the world. Hopefully, Porsche delivers these cars on time and as promised.
Today, Porsche GB teased the Taycan’s performance numbers. According to Porsche, the Taycan will be capable of sprinting from 0-62mph (0-100km/h) in as little as 3.5 seconds. This puts the Taycan in some select company like the Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG or the BMW F90 M5. While yes, this does put it at a disadvantage with the Tesla Model S, we’re confident that the Taycan will be a more performance driving optimized vehicle. Not just a straight line beast.
With huge torque from a standing start, the Taycan β seen here in camouflaged prototype form β goes from 0-62mph in 3.5 seconds. pic.twitter.com/xcWlfO7mfx
β Porsche GB (@PorscheGB) August 16, 2018
With all things considered, it looks like that Porsche is serious with the Taycan. This being their first effort in producing an all-electric car, the vehicle will most definitely be a handling jewel. The Taycan will – size wise – be placed somewhere between the Porsche Panamera and the Porsche 911. In turn, that makes it a direct rival to the industry-leading Tesla Model S.
The vehicle is slated to come equipped with two permanently excited synchronous electric motors (PSM), producing a combined output of 600 horsepower (400KW). With the 3.5 second acceleration time, a top speed electronically limited to 155mph (250km/h) and a 310 mile (500 kilometers), it’s going to be a force to be reckoned with.
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Specs are actually closer to model3 Performance…
… and cost is 2x the model 3 performance
Let’s be honest this is a Porsche. You’re not going to confuse this with a family sedan. Tesla has caused everyone to view performance based on drag times. There’s more to performance than straight line performance.
But word has it that cheaper by-half sedan is pretty hot on the track too. Sp what else is there to performance?
Haha. Model S is a pretty useless trackday car, mainly because of thermal issues but partly also its huge mass. For sporty driving on public roads it’s not bad, although I bet the Porsche is going to be a much sharper drive. But on track? Seriously not. Watch Tiff Needell try even the race modified version and overheat in a couple of laps! Even the GT car can’t go full power for long and race drivers in the Tesla GT racing series actually have to thermal-manage the car throughout races…
Model 3 Performance seems to be better than S in this respect, but even that isn’t a good trackday car.
I know, in most countries VERY few people ever take their car to a race track, never mind do so regularly. But what you’re claiming, that Tesla is hot on the track, is only true in the literal sense – it is in fact overheating.
He is clearly talking about Model 3, not Model S.
There is. But I don’t think anyone can responsibly go near the performance limits of even the Model 3 on public roads. So it is kind of insane that buyers would care. But the fact is they do. What they really crave is the approval of other car nuts, not the performance as such – going fast around the track is all about street credibility. And people with plenty of money are often willing to pay A LOT for that.
Going fast around the *track* , is *street* credibility?
Isn’t street credibility the traffic light 1/2 mile dash?
Porsche owners ( i have owned a couple) care about track performance. Even if we never take our cars to the track (I’ve done a couple track days over the years) part of what we are buying is race track proven performance and heritage. ALL Porsche’s even the SUVs, have to be capable of out performing their counterparts on tracks. It’s part of the DNA of the brand.
That’s not to say Tesla couldn’t build a track capable performer, but for Porsche the Taycan HAS to be track capable. This is not an EV for EV fans necessarily, but it is an EV for Porsche fans.
So, you know the final price already? What is it?
I’m going to guess $133K.. just a SWAG
I believe Porsche has previously stated the entry point for Mission E was targeted at $80k. The top end may well be $133k or even more though.
They have never stated a price. That number came from Car magazine over a year ago as a guess.
But probably the Taycan will not loose the bumpers if rains…. It cost 2x, but quality and reliability will be 3x or 4x. And lets see the price as used cars of both in 5 years.
Also the Model 3 P somehow does it with less HP. 480 vs 600.
Model 3 is smaller, and presumably somewhat lighter.
Smaller in what dimension? I’d guess the Model 3 interior space is MUCH larger, for instance.
What is the interior passenger volume of the Taycan?
Max. capacity: 15 clowns
nice!
In all dimensions, going by the numbers someone claimed here a while back… Not sure where they got these though, and thus how reliable the source was.
We know Tesla only gets its best performance when the battery is at a high state of charge. For all we know Porsche might guarantee that 0-60 times from full battery to empty. It might also mean Porsche has a higher top speed or tuned the car to get better range at higher speeds. The devil is always in the details.
“top speed electronically limited to 155mph (250km/h)”
Most German cars are. .
They can also be bought without the limit, or change it, and they reach around 300.
If it’s not fast enough you can buy a Koenigsegg that reach 460km/h.
In real life 160km/h is more then enough for me. I usually max out at 130. On a straight, on a race track, I may drive faster. But that happens hardly ever.
Maybe I’ve seen a few accidents too much?
I don’t know what acceleration Teslas get at near-empty battery; but the officially stated numbers are always worse than what people achieve in the real world with full batteries — so there is clearly some reserve there as well.
Does Porsche have some mythical battery tech that does not lose power output with lower SOC?
Performance is defined by more than 0-60 acceleration time. And only the performance variants of S have faster than 3.5 acceleration time to 60.
I use to say people have to try an Ariel Atom on a race track. Quick, small, wind and good handling.
I also like well balanced cars, on the track.
The whole track performance thing is just marketing folly, really. Just like people want to buy the same brand of sneakers Husein Bolt ran with, even if they’ll only use them for City walking, it’s about street cred. Porsche and some other manufacturers take lap times at the ring very seriously, not because this actually makes better cars for buyers, but because it is an unfakeable, and thus highly credible, way to demonstrate superiority of the product (but in a totally irrelevant way considering actual use of the product). People who really know cars and driving, or like to think they do, place huge importance on these characteristics, and the majority of buyers, the herd, simply imitate them…
In the end, this means many people will pay a lot for the street cred, the approving nods from those in the know – the performance is actually the means, not the end…
Ahah, yes, the P3D even does a little better ! But Porsche wins on the design.
Who wants to found the father of the #dieselgate for the sake of the design or the hype ?
” This also packs dual motors and is AWD, with top speed upped to 155 mph (250 k/h) and the 0 to 60- mph time reduced to 3.5 seconds.”
Tesla is really making the ‘performance’ brands work for their money, with the Model 3 midsize sedan with just 250Kw matching the specs of Porsche’s new fastest ever EV sports car.
Then there is the big full-size sedan Model S P100D at 2.5 to 60.
But since it’s Porsche, we should be looking at performance cars, so that would be the Roadster at 1.9 seconds.
Specs are the stupid person’s attempt to boil something very complicated down to something very simple. And manufacturers specs are not even consistently reported, so they say even less than third party measurements.
In any case, people who buy Porsche are buying the approving nods from car nuts who are obsessed with lap times, even if they never drive on a track. The only “spec” that really says anything useful to such people is how fast the car went around the NΓΌrburgring. Among countless examples, Nissan’s GT-R became a credible sports car simply because it’s fast around a track. Drag racing is… well, is a drag.
Like I have been saying, this thing is a Model 3 competitor, not a Model S competitor. It’s the size of a Model 3, it’s the same layout as a Model 3 (4 door with a trunk, not a hatch), and it has similar performance specs as the performance Model 3.
It has auto-pilot? I missed that.
Sexy beast, though. You wouldn’t catch one of these babies coming out of GM as a halo car any time soon. Maybe they will put some clear polycarbonate over the headlights, that has to be a serious drag. Or, wait, they could do those flip-out headlights again like in the Porsche 944.
Sexy, but with all the baggage of waiting at CCS charger. This is more like BMW i3 competitor with those stupid suicide doors.
Those doors are for the concept car only.
It might have 0-60 times similar as a performance model 3, but that doesn’t mean the Porsche doesn’t have a higher top speed, able to maintain high speeds or have better performance at higher speeds. 0-60 only tells half the story for performance cars. That’s why car magazines do 60-80, 80-100 and quarter mile test. It’s easy to tune a car to do good 0-60/70 time, but suck at greater than 70 mph performance. The Leaf is a good example of a car that has pretty good 0-50 mph times, but slows down after that which hurts it’s 0-60 times.
“top speed electronically limited to 155mph (250km/h)”
The 3 already has good number in all of those tests. It’s up to Porsche to do it better and give someone a reason other than $1000 contrasting stitching on the seats to buy the Taycan.
Given its likely price, size and design I don’t think it really competes with either. It’s a Porsche; people have been paying a premium for Porsches for a long time, just like people pay a premium for Apple stuff. It’s about consistent (good) design and brand management and, in the case of Porsche, a degree of exclusivity and belonging to the club. For some the Porsche club will have more cachet than the Tesla club.
It has a perfect NHTSA crash score? I missed that.
This car fails. It has no easter eggs and no removable rear bumper
So the Taycan can ford deeper water than a Model 3? Impressive.
Taycan will be amphibious, just ask any Porsche enthusiast.
A decade late, Porsche finally dips their toes into the pure EV market. Better late than never I guess.
Your article and your title contradict themselves. The 3,5s is from 0-62mph (as in the text), not from 0-60mph (as in your title).
Fixed. Thank you. Sometimes title gets edited by a different person than the writer. It originally said 0-100 km/h.
Ahhh…if only there was an international standard the US could adopt π
Would love that very much, believe me
Just start adopting any day you want π
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If Taycan is well received by Porscheβs customer base hopefully Porsche will be prepared to build in volume.
Isn’t planned volume announced as 25k per year..? Which is a reasonable volume for a Porsche. But it’s probably not first year volume…
AFAIK they actually said 20,000 — but with some flexibility…
Lol so this porche supercar is slower than the slowest performance tesla? Good start porche.
We donβt have an actual confirmation on how quick it truly is.
Porsche generally sandbags their numbers. If they say 3.5 seconds, you can bet it will do it under all conditions and probably faster under ideal conditions.
Just like Tesla does with their performance specs. They rate the P3 at 3.5 0-60 but there are already videos showing it going 3.1
If the size is between a Panamera and a 911, then this is a model 3P competitor, not a model S competitor.
But I think that’s a great thing! Would love to see a car-n-driver comparo between the Taycan and the Model 3P!!
The new Roadster is even smaller. I guess it must be a Bolt competitor.
No need! We know if it’s German it wins the Car & Driver tests, always! The Taycan may fit 15 clowns but Car & Driver has 30+ clowns writing for it …
Those numbers are actually a little bit embarrassing. 7 years late to the table and still second to the American upstart who keeps moving the goalposts. This won’t sit well in Stuttgart.
Let’s see the lap times of Tesla and Porsche around the ring. That’s the relevant performance measurement. And then it’s how exciting it is to drive, which is subjective, but still something car nuts generally establish some consensus about.
It’s fairly insane that lap times should matter, because they have zero relevance for actual use of the car in the real world. But they do matter because people aren’t really buying performance, they are buying approving nods from other car nuts and the knowledge that their car is superior.
Porsche won’t have trouble selling this car quite regardless of it being out-accelerated by a much cheaper car. There’s always been cheap American cars that could beat more expensive Porsches in a drag race. Most of them have been crappy drives though (TransAm and most Corvettes for example) and all have been unrefined compared to the best European brands (including Tesla, and the few Corvettes of later years that are sharp drives like the C7).
I think it looks amazing, and I think it will be amazing. Believe it or not, Porsche is seen in Europe as in a different league than Tesla, and you won’t see them having any problems selling the car. Some buyers may prefer Tesla’s computer-Gizmo cars even over here, but probably not many of Porsche’s customer base. BMW is much closer to Tesla in this regard, and so is Audi. Porsche of course also has a ton of software and infotainment these days, but it’s not what sells the cars. Lap times are more relevant for these buyers, and not because it makes any difference in use, but purely because of street credibility.
They are clearly in a different league — though which one is the preferred one, depends on whom you ask π The people who bought a Model S or X Performance around here, surely didn’t do so because they couldn’t afford a Porsche… Some of these will surely prefer an electric Porsche, once they are available — but others will always identify with Tesla’s image more than with Porsche’s…
People are seriously comparing a Porsche with a Tesla? Tesla Model 3 is a few miliseconds faster, wow, so important! Have you ever driven a Porsche?
3.5 seconds is a very respectable number for a first EV from Porsche. The Taycan doesn’t need to be any quicker as the Porsche 918 Spyder already trashes any Tesla out there.