Malcolm Jenkins: I want the conversation to be about the issues, not the anthem

John Clark on Twitter

Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins stayed in the tunnel Thursday night instead of raising his fist as he had done for parts of the past two seasons. On Friday, he explained why.

“I want the conversation to be about the issues, not about the anthem and whether it’s the right time or wrong time,” Jenkins said, via John Clark of Philadelphia’s NBC10. “There’s a lot of work being done. I want that to be the focus.”

Defensive back De’Vante Bausby, who also raised a fist last week, stood alongside Jenkins in the tunnel. Defensive end Michael Bennett remained in the locker room during the anthem Thursday, per Clark.

Jenkins wore a pregame T-shirt that read: “You Aren’t Listening.”

Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott said during training camp that the anthem is not the right time and stadiums not the right place for protests about social injustice and police brutality. He instead asked for attention to be focused on players’ actions in their communities as they seek to find solutions.

94 responses to “Malcolm Jenkins: I want the conversation to be about the issues, not the anthem

  1. You aren’t listening as well, get off your knees and go out in the world, not sidelines and do something for whatever the cause is this Sunday. Odd how def the players are on listening part.

  2. Malcolm Jenkins: I want the conversation to be about the issues, not the anthem.

    I want you to just play football Malcolm. If I wanted to watch a political stance I’d tune into one of the many cable news channels. If you’d rather talk about the issues then you should retire and get a job at one of those cable news channels.

    We’re here to watch football, you’re here to play football. Be seen and not heard. Thanks.

  3. melikefootball says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:02 pm
    You aren’t listening as well, get off your knees and go out in the world, not sidelines and do something for whatever the cause is this Sunday. Odd how def the players are on listening part.

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    “THE MALCOLM JENKINS FOUNDATION
    The Malcolm Jenkins Foundation is committed to youth development in underserved communities through programs and initiatives that emphasize education, character development, leadership, life skills, health and recreation.”

    Is that good enough for you or is he still too “def”?

  4. logicalvoicesays says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:03 pm
    Thumbs up for kneeling!!!

    …Thumbs up your ______ for kneeling

    There! I fixed it for you

  5. “Malcolm Jenkins: I want the conversation to be about the issues, not the anthem.”

    Then here is an idea Malcom. You and a few of your like-minded buddies should get together and purchase some air time on one or more of the TV networks and use that forum to get people to tune in and discuss your issues.

  6. Here’s a thought, talk in specific terms publicly about the issues you are concerned about. Do it as loudly as you want about whatever you want, OUTSIDE of work. There is already enough politics in most Americans’ daily lives. If you don’t want it to be abot the Anthem, don’t protest during the Anthem… I feel like I am taking crazy pills!

  7. waynefontesismyfather says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    Jenkins wore a pregame T-shirt that read: “You Aren’t Listening.”

    You’re right. We’re here to watch football not listen to you bloviate.

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    And also, we’re experiencing an oversaturation of social justice and activism. When you flash issues in people’s faces and on social media 24/7, you’re annoying people to where they tune you out and refuse to listen to you. Plus, there’s a good chance that most of the 60% of minorities in jail are guilty of the crimes they’ve committed. Not all of them are guilty, but not all of them are innocent either. He really killed that cause when he gave Super Bowl tickets to a guy who was in jail for 30 yrs for a crime he was guilty of doing.

  8. If he wants to talk about African Americans murdering African Americans which make up 93% of all African American murders I’m all ears.

  9. So he protests during the national anthem and doesn’t want the issue to be about the anthem, which many people find distasteful? If that’s the case then do it some other time. And another thing…I thought he met with the NFL last year and they came to an agreement to help and that he was satisfied. Now apparently he isn’t satisfied which tells me there is no way he will be satisfied ever.

  10. You are using the anthem to get attention,and disrespecting all those who have fallen for this country in doing so. Your “issues” will always be drowned out by your disrespect, so while you may want the discussion to be about your “issues”, it never will be.

  11. melikefootball says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    You aren’t listening as well, get off your knees and go out in the world, not sidelines and do something for whatever the cause is this Sunday. Odd how def the players are on listening part.
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    the guy is STANDING in the tunnel and you made the comment get off your knee and then you have the unmitigated gall*stephen a smith voice* to say the players aren’t listening. LOL unreal

  12. “I want the conversation to be about the issues”
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    We don’t want to participate in the conversation, we want to watch football.

  13. smitty113 says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    If he wants to talk about African Americans murdering African Americans which make up 93% of all African American murders I’m all ears.
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    So your logic is well since African Americans commit violent crime against each other a lot why does it matter when others do it? I’m just trying to understand your viewpoint.

    Will this comment get posted???

  14. well then Malcolm, what are you doing about these issues, you know, besides raising your fist?

  15. A lot of people hated Muhammad Ali too.

    In retrospect, those people look like idiots.

  16. If he wants to talk about African Americans murdering African Americans which make up 93% of all African American murders I’m all ears.

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    Thats not an issue. Thats okay to the sitters/kneelers. Its when whitey does it that it isn’t acceptable. Do black people kill non-black people??

  17. Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott said during training camp that the anthem is not the right time and stadiums not the right place for protests about social injustice and police brutality. He instead asked for attention to be focused on players’ actions in their communities as they seek to find solutions.

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    So, we are pretending that Dak Prescott is the voice of reason, rather than another of Jerruh’s puppets. Interesting take.

  18. Now that the most vocal leader of the protests is no longer protesting on the field, the other lemmings will fall in line. With the recent news that ESPN will not show kneelers/protesters on their MNF broadcast, we’re hopefully near the end of this obscenely stupid story.

  19. Prescott is exactly right . I have said it a few times on here. Both the NFL and the player have the money and the power to create a media front that shows players doing things in there communities and the issues that are being fought and show the progress being made. I will guarantee you that most fans would have some respect for players that are actively doing things in their communities and make a difference compered to the player who just kneels and complains and then floats out a story how he bought his Mom a half million dollar home. What if the guy that is kneeling just $200,000 to a local police department for better training or equipment, and also make both sides aware of how difficult being a policeman might be. I met a guy that think cops out just out to kill black men. Do people really think that? Do you think a cop goes home and are bummed because he didn’t get to shoot anyone. I think not.

  20. What, the issue that white people that don’t comply with police get arrested and sometimes shot just like black people??? Comply and nothing bad will happen.

  21. waynefontesismyfather says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:02 pm
    Malcolm Jenkins: I want the conversation to be about the issues, not the anthem.

    I want you to just play football Malcolm. If I wanted to watch a political stance I’d tune into one of the many cable news channels. If you’d rather talk about the issues then you should retire and get a job at one of those cable news channels.

    We’re here to watch football, you’re here to play football. Be seen and not heard. Thanks.

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    He does play football at a very high level, Pro bowl player on a championship team.
    In addition he understands that the constitution offers him the liberty to peacefully protest and is cognizant enough to take advantage of the exposure that his God given talents have afforded him.
    Are you jealous?

  22. I tune into football to watch football, not politics. Since Malcolm seems to be headstrong about this, go on a political show and talk about your concerns. You’re an athlete, they’d have you on in a heartbeat. Go debate Tucker or Anderson Cooper.

  23. Am I the only one who never even tunes into sporting events until the game starts who doesn’t understand why people who claim to be offended by anthem protests just don’t do the same thing if they “just want to see football” like they say.

    No one is making you watch them protest and it’s not even addressed once the game starts so who exactly is forcing you to deal with politics during football?

    Common sense and basic problem solving skills seem to be an endangered resource in America now a days or people are just addicted to being offended by things that they literally are forcing themselves to endure.

  24. Then stop trying to use the anthem as a platform to get whatever message you claim to care about it. It only pisses people off and ensures people won’t listen to you. As a professional athlete you have mics and cameras at your disposal. Use those to get your message out, use social media and or get actively involved in making a difference. Protesting during the national anthem isn’t activism, its ignorant, insulting and counter productive.

  25. When his playing days are over he’ll be a great political candidate in New York, California, or the city of Chicago.

  26. akaodoyle says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott said during training camp that the anthem is not the right time and stadiums not the right place for protests about social injustice and police brutality. He instead asked for attention to be focused on players’ actions in their communities as they seek to find solutions.

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    So, we are pretending that Dak Prescott is the voice of reason, rather than another of Jerruh’s puppets. Interesting take.

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    The huge difference is Jenkins feels empowered to protest because he already signed a big NFL contract and is financially set for life. Dak has not… yet. Dak’s agent probably told him to back Jerrah 100% and appeal to his vanity. After he signs a $130m+ contract, then Dak can have all dissenting opinions he wants. Smart move by Prescott and his agent.

  27. the17thearlofoxford says:

    A lot of people hated Muhammad Ali too.

    In retrospect, those people look like idiots.
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    He gave comfort to the enemy when our soldiers were on the ground fighting.

  28. charger383 says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    when will Jenkins figure out a lot of us do not care about his issues?

    I do care about his issues, but not at the expense of somebody/something else that I also care about, i.e., the National Anthem, our country, and our Armed Forces.

    Don’t say “If you care about me, spit in that guy’s face.” Find another way, another venue for your cause that does not disrespect a different group of people. YOU made this about the anthem, and YOU can stop making it about the anthem by standing.

  29. Then maybe it’s time that you told the world, in a coherent manner, what the issues actually are.

  30. Some of you need to do some research on what Malcolm Jenkins’ positions and actions. This guy is not some uninformed malcontent like Kaep he is very measured in what he says and how he says it.

    1. He has never kneeled, he has only raised a fist.
    2. The guy puts a ton of his time and reousrces into criminal justice reform issues

    For those complaining about the national anthem being used as a political platform you can thank the President for that. Kneeling had basically ended when he decided to come out with his moronic statement about “firing the SOBs”, It was a classic red herring to deflect from all the crap Trump is in.

  31. Psst, if it is NOT about the Anthem, then change your tactics to PROVE it is not about the Anthem. Stand for the freakin Anthem and find another way to “use your platform” in a POSITIVE manner regarding the issues you speak of.

  32. Michael E says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    “I want the conversation to be about the issues”
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    We don’t want to participate in the conversation, we want to watch football.

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    While I don’t think much of the opinion, I can at least appreciate the honesty. I’d feel better about all of this if the naysayers stopped hiding behind the convenient excuse of “disrespecting the flag” and just fessed up that they simply don’t care what happens to minorities as long as it doesn’t affect them.

  33. I think the lesson I’ve learned form all of this is you can promote the country, the military, yourself, a sports drink, a car or truck, your teammates, your charities, pizza or fast food in general, your vastly overpriced healthy cook book (still love ya TB12) you can even promote god. But you can’t promote racial equality. That’s when they have gone too far.

    If you think that cops have only shot and killed criminals running from a crime they saw them commit then you have not been paying attention to your country at all.

  34. The average commentator on PFT bashing players have absolutely NO clue WHY players were protesting and what the issues are.

  35. We appear to have several on this forum, so could a Social Justice Warrior or SJW sympathizer PLEASE explain how protesting the National Anthem is going to change state and local policies, that in SOME cases, need to be changed? Former President Obama was a SJW and what laws did he enact or TRY to enact to change policies with which he disagreed? What recommendations did former AG Eric Holder, also a SJW, enact or push for? I’ll answer it for you: NONE! Those laws and policies need to be changed on a local and state level.

    Most of the SJW just want to stir up problems. Case and point, Chicago PD released footage of the man that was killed WITH a gun on his hip, ran and REPEATEDLY FAILED to comply with the commands/requests by the officers. Even after the footage was released, SOME of those activists still protested THAT shooting. Cops are PREPARED to get shot at but their job is NOT to let the person contacted, take shots first, become remorseful and then decide to put the gun down. The Tamir Rice and Philando Castile shootings LOOKED unjustified but the juries decided to acquit. In ALMOST every other instance, the contacted suspect FAILED to comply with LAWFUL commands.

    A well known SJW, here in the Houston area has been silent over the past few years. He was a person that REGULARLY protested (sometimes fairly and unfairly) police use of force/shooting incidents. Houston PD put him on a Firearms Training Simulator and gave him the SAME scenarios that their officers are given. He FAILED on all five scenarios; he shot when he should NOT have and didn’t shoot when he should have. Local cops have FRACTIONS of a second to make a decision that others have minutes, days or months to second guess. The guy with his hands in his pockets KNOWS whether he has a weapon, if and when he plans to use it. The cops have to TRY to react to his action, which is generally faster.

    My cousin was living with me and believed that cops were too quick to want to pull the trigger on suspects; I SHOWED her she was WRONG! I pulled the slides off my weapons and we both had only the trigger portions. I had her stand with the “weapon” POINTED at me and she was giving me commands to show my hand; which was behind my back. SHE knew (unlike most instances with street cops) I had a weapon. I was talking smack to her and would NOT comply with her commands. During my two minutes of smack talking, I would intermittently tell her that I PLANNED to shoot her and to be ready for it. When I acted, I got off three clicks before she got off one! Point made!

  36. shadywarrior says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    Michael E says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    “I want the conversation to be about the issues”
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    We don’t want to participate in the conversation, we want to watch football.

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    While I don’t think much of the opinion, I can at least appreciate the honesty. I’d feel better about all of this if the naysayers stopped hiding behind the convenient excuse of “disrespecting the flag” and just fessed up that they simply don’t care what happens to minorities as long as it doesn’t affect them.

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    When hundred of black men shoot other black men each day, it is safe to say that many of these “minorities” don’t care what happens to themselves….

  37. stylzinc says:
    . . . he understands that the constitution offers him the liberty to peacefully protest and is cognizant enough to take advantage of the exposure that his God given talents have afforded him.
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    He may or may not understand the Constitution, but your words clearly indicate you do not.
    I’m getting sick to death of having to repeat this, but the Constitution you refer to, including the First Amendment, outlines a citizen’s rights in relation to the U.S. Government, PERIOD!
    That means that with certain exceptions, the government cannot sanction you for your speech. It does not protect one from the consequences of his or her words or actions in the private sector, including on the job.
    Those of you who keep bloviating about the “players using their platform” either don’t get it or don’t want to understand. They aren’t using THIER platform, they’re hijacking their EMPLOYERS’ platform, and said employers have every legal right to demand they stop protesting on their time and dime.
    The Constitution has nothing to do with this issue, a fact you should have learned at least by the time you reached junior high.

  38. Malcolm…if you don’t want it be about the anthem STOP USING THE ANTHEM to get your message across. If people aren’t listening as you claim, find another platform!
    I’ve said this before…I understand what the players are trying to do, but they need to use a different platform. The platform they’re using is only creating MORE racial divide. One needs to look no further than the comments on these posts to see that.

  39. Malcolm, my response to you would be, “Too Late”. The players and league have bungled this so badly, no one is going to listen to a player talk about the issues.

  40. I would love to see real conversations about issues, see people that do the easy things like talk, or gesture to do something constructive to make our world better.

    Malcom think about this.. when your kid, a baby doesn’t think they are being heard the scream louder. They don’t understand there are other ways to communicate, and that using a different method may be more appropriate for your message.

    I suggest you tweet and meet with Trump in a open manner, partners help you solve problems. Adversaries put up road blocks. You don’t have to like him, if your cause means that much to you.

    The nfl players need one prominent player to start the conversations with law enforcement and government.

  41. Mind boggling how so many people cry about kneeling being disrespectful to troops, veterans, etc.. You being “offended” does not translate to it being “disrespectful” to anyone.

  42. Unfortunately the world is full of jerks that will always make it about the Anthem, or Soldiers, or anything else to put the conversation in bad light because they are uncomfortable talking about the issues. It’s just how it works.

  43. All I can say is these protesters better keep their jobs because the moment they are cut they will not have another team sign them.
    Start speaking up against the MAJORITY black on black crime and then I might pay attn to you and listen. Until then I dont think anyone cares what you say Malcolm.

  44. jdreed68 says:
    August 17, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    Unfortunately the world is full of jerks that will always make it about the Anthem, or Soldiers, or anything else to put the conversation in bad light because they are uncomfortable talking about the issues. It’s just how it works.

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    People aren’t uncomfortable about issues. People are upset over how they protest issues. It may not have been the intent, but those who aren’t standing for the Anthem are trashing the Anthem, flag, and military. Bill Maher wasn’t being racist when he said the N-word last year, but he still shouldn’t have said the most racist term known in society.

  45. You B. Crazy says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:35 pm
    akaodoyle says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott said during training camp that the anthem is not the right time and stadiums not the right place for protests about social injustice and police brutality. He instead asked for attention to be focused on players’ actions in their communities as they seek to find solutions.

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    So, we are pretending that Dak Prescott is the voice of reason, rather than another of Jerruh’s puppets. Interesting take.

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    The huge difference is Jenkins feels empowered to protest because he already signed a big NFL contract and is financially set for life. Dak has not… yet. Dak’s agent probably told him to back Jerrah 100% and appeal to his vanity. After he signs a $130m+ contract, then Dak can have all dissenting opinions he wants. Smart move by Prescott and his agent.
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    Did the agents for Jim Brown and Tony Dungy tell them to bac Jerry, since they voiced the same opinion as Dak (yes I know the media hardly covered it)?

  46. Racism, targeting, profiling and subjecting minorities to unequal treatment by Law Enforcement and the Courts is a shameful fact of life too few non minorities have no idea or experience of…. and some harbor antipathy or worse. That is a poor reflection on those who are “too blind to see, too deaf to hear” what our country needs to do to end injustice and brutality.

  47. I have been anti protest all along because I do think disrespecting the flag and the military is not the way to do this. I never took the rest of what these guys said seriously because they lost me at the start with their public disply of disrespect. But in this case Jenkins has stopped the public display of disrespect. I still wish he would get on out there and show respect but at least he is staying neutral with that stuff now. So at the game I still dont want to hear his isdues, I tuned in to play football. But if he wants to publish something video or written I would certainly absorb it and give it fair consideration. Cant promise to agree or disagree, at this stage I could only promise to absorb and consider.

    As far as those that are getting riled about him having issues at all, even if he protests on his own time (as many of you have been challenging him to do) you are still going to hate on it. There is just no helping that.

  48. nhpats says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:51 pm
    shadywarrior says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    Michael E says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    “I want the conversation to be about the issues”
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    We don’t want to participate in the conversation, we want to watch football.

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    While I don’t think much of the opinion, I can at least appreciate the honesty. I’d feel better about all of this if the naysayers stopped hiding behind the convenient excuse of “disrespecting the flag” and just fessed up that they simply don’t care what happens to minorities as long as it doesn’t affect them.

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    When hundred of black men shoot other black men each day, it is safe to say that many of these “minorities” don’t care what happens to themselves….

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    I’d argue those stats are largely resulting from socioeconomic problems. There are a million facets to most problems. My issue with this is that there’s an IMMEDIATE deflection any time it’s suggested that maybe there is some mistreatment going. Just once, I’d love to have a conversation about police brutality without bringing up Chicago murder rates. I’m sure we can point fingers all over the place, but why is this particular finger ducked to the extent it is? To suggest that everything is black folks’ fault is just ridiculous.

  49. granadafan says: August 17, 2018 at 3:43 pm
    The average commentator on PFT bashing players have absolutely NO clue WHY players were protesting and what the issues are.

    Or perhaps you’re confused about the difference between understanding a position and agreeing. And the “issues” seem to change regularly depending on whatever’s the outrage of the day.

  50. Malcolm Jenkins-your story is getting old. The”grievances” you speak of are fallacies. 99% of cops who are African American, Latino, Caucasian, and get paid scraps compared to you, want to go home safe to their families.

    The worst parts of America, they try to keep safe, but get crapped on all day by people like you.

    You want respect? Stand for the flag.

    If you hide in a tunnel, we view you as a coward…..”social justice”…..the fallacy of a liberal mind is a true cancer of the mind.

    #walkaway

  51. ““I want the conversation to be about the issues, not about the anthem”

    So stop using the anthem as a political prop. Its not that complicated. Find other venues and means for getting your political views across.

  52. You mean issues like; drugs, gangs, black men not taking responsibility for their off spring, high crime rates, involvement in schools and graduation rates, lack of respect for authority in genral…those kind of issues?

  53. you bash trump for being racist, I haven’t heard him say anything racist. he said stop the kneeling crap, he didn’t say black or white players. plus black unemployment is up more under him than Obama, Clinton, bush, carter ect. quit listening to the race baiter Maxine, jesse, all, get a mind of your own, quit being “victims”.

  54. Jenkins wore a pregame T-shirt that read: “You Aren’t Listening.”

    How true that is. People don’t listen. It’s sad because the message is being lost among the noise about the Anthem itself. And that idiot we have at the helm who just spouts off on Twitter what’s on the top of his bleached head doesn’t help things.

  55. Ok, so if Malcolm Jenkins and the others pay for some TV time, maybe publish an op-ed piece, and do some community work, and just plays football on Sundays with no statement…..you’ll start listening to what he has to say? Or will you just continue living your life the way you always have, only caring about yourself and groups of people who matter to you?

  56. edon8334 says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    smitty113 says:
    August 17, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    If he wants to talk about African Americans murdering African Americans which make up 93% of all African American murders I’m all ears.
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    So your logic is well since African Americans commit violent crime against each other a lot why does it matter when others do it? I’m just trying to understand your viewpoint.

    Will this comment get posted???

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    I am happy to answer and also hope my comment does not get randomly deleted by PFT(not going to curse or say anything offensive, but one never knows nowadays).

    We the people who are against the protests have 2 major issues:

    1-Nowadays we as a society are saturated with this 24/7 news cycle and the division it creates. For many of us (I’d estimate well over 50%) football is a sanctuary from politics. When you’re watching a game with family/friends or a room full of complete strangers the last thing crossing anyone’s mind is each other’s political ideology…until the kneeling/protests. What brought us together now has devolved into another thing that divides us, all because some spoiled brat who couldn’t level up from his college playbook got benched while dating a BLM member. Does anyone remember when Colin Kaepernick was an okay running QB who people seemed to write off as an arrogant, not-too-bright jerk-THIS SITE INCLUDED, by the way- all of a sudden he is some civil rights leader?! Cmon do you not see his ulterior motives or the virtue signalling. This is a combination of daddy issues, projection, resentment and trying to be down. The players who have followed his lead are no better. They always claim to want to engage in this “conversation” when it is obvious to anyone being honest they just want to be listened to (and obeyed). This is what is causing the division- a bunch of over privileged athletes who have always been put on a pedestal patronizing us, the fans who whose support helps secure those huge contracts.

    2- This answers your question more directly; they are, by and large, completely out of touch with reality and move the goalpost every chance they get.Malcolm Jenkins said something about 60% of prisoners being people of color and how it is unfair, as an example…well, yes that is because they are locked up proportionally to the crimes they commit. Fair has nothing to do with it, it is simply a consequence for individual actions which is so widespread it affects the group as a whole. When they bring up police shooting suspects they still use false narratives like Michael Brown “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” which has been 100% debunked…if they are going to make a huge public issue over something at least make sure you understand the nuances of your cause, as well as the other side’s point of view.

    The reason people may point out the astronomically high # of shootings in Chicago or the fact that the largest threat to a young black male it isn’t because we don’t think it is tragic or a non issue. It certainly does not negate any act of violence suffered by anyone by the Police (or whoever else); it is simply pointing out that while law enforcement may not be perfect it doesn’t compare to Black on Black violence in frequency or body count. They are celebrities and have a public platform to be heard by millions-why ignore this issue and focus on something that is, frankly, a direct result of the main problem. Would the # of POC being incarcerated be so much higher than every other group if the killing was cut in half..or more? Of course not. It would level out… Protest against the police all you want, it is nothing but a band aid on a gunshot wound…

    Sorry for the long post, just to summarize and give you some perspective our issues are that now we are forced to be inundated with political rhetoric when one of the reasons we watch is to get away from that, the false narrative fueling the protests, the disingenuous statements from the players (not even going to get into it, this has been way too long already) and, of course we do feel it is disrespectful to the Flag and our troops who keep us safe while we spend the afternoon watching grown men play ball. It DOES NOT mean we are racist in any way and/or do not care about the Black community; they are our friends, family and neighbors too. We just feel this needs to end and want our football back….

  57. Well Malcolm—-We all hope You read all these comments about you and your other classless million dollar protesting morons. Then, you all get together and see if any of you can figure out, why God gave you two ears and only one mouth!

  58. granadafan says:

    The average commentator on PFT bashing players have absolutely NO clue WHY players were protesting and what the issues are.
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    We don’t care why. We want to watch football.

  59. If these players did not take a knee during the anthem nobody would be talking about their issues, or the fact people hate it. I am all for the kneeling, raised first, going to the locker room. Keep it up, bring awareness to the issues, and to those that hate it keep sticking your head in the sand.

  60. shadywarrior says: August 17, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    I’d argue those stats are largely resulting from socioeconomic problems. There are a million facets to most problems. My issue with this is that there’s an IMMEDIATE deflection any time it’s suggested that maybe there is some mistreatment going. Just once, I’d love to have a conversation about police brutality without bringing up Chicago murder rates. I’m sure we can point fingers all over the place, but why is this particular finger ducked to the extent it is? To suggest that everything is black folks’ fault is just ridiculous.

    Mistreatment? Life isn’t easy or perfect for anyone, but fairer here than any country on earth. Understand critical importance of self-responsibility and that opportunity in 2018 America is essentially colorblind. Pointing the finger of blame and living life as a victim hurts both individual and group, and is disingenuous regardless of race.

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