Otheise, we' treating the symptom, not theisease. Thank you, Tom. Let's go to congressman Lu gutier thank you for joining us. I know you were at the detention centern Colorado yesterday. Do you share Mr. Bossert's, I guess,pessimism, over wheer this exeve order will work? Happens after the judge strikes it dn this week? Well, first of all, my visit with tee detainees, from Guatemala, three women, separated from their children, says to me, you cannot STO until each and everyent is reunited with their chd. That has to be our fir priority. I think we C all get together agree that these children should united with their miles. And moving forward, there shld be no more separations. But let's be clear even as your former guest said, E plague, from coming. He used that'd. The plague from coming. President uses words like they're breerds breeders. Sanctuary cities. He said yesterday they come to infest. These the kinds of words that the repubn party and this president uses. Heoesn't use it as a border control policy. An immigrationicy. He uses it as a -- an issue to energize his political base for the midterections. It'srong to separate babies. To use cruel, inhumane policies, in O to gin up your political base. And itms like it's king, George. 90% of Republicans now hav favoraopinion of this president and suort him. One of the answers some blicans are using is th're preparing a bill that allows children to stay in detention cilities F more than 20 days. Countermandate of the ruling. By the ninth circuit court. If that's not the tion, then what is? Here's the solution. My colleague, Jerry Nadler, H come henve pro comprehensive proposals. We should siwn with serious comprehensive proposals, like the one of congressman Nadler, that WOU keep families together. Make sure our asylum system works. They're not coming here illegally. The coming here eking asylum and protection. As Lon-- and I do agrewith your former guest in this. As Lonas there are guns placed to people's heads. As long as you girls, daughters, are -- are going to be raped, and the is nobody to protect them. As long as sons, like my grandson, are ING able to put into gangs. Rcibly put into gangs and drug caels, people Aring to flee this kind of Povey, violence, and crime. We should invest. But one thing I think we must member. The key to all of this is the unabated consumption the drugs. The drugartels have established selves in guemala, El Salvador, Honduras and it is those drug cartels. And it is T drugs that come into this country thats the primary reason of the debilitation of the social structures and the reasons the governments cannot protect the childrennd that population. Soet's invest in our hemisphere. Let's invest in democracy an jobs and economic development. Instead ofsing it as a wedge sue for the upcoming election As wee talked, the president just tweeted, a direct eet to Democrats. Aid, Democrats, fix the laws. Don't resist. Are doing a far better job than bush and Obama. But we need strength and security at the border cannot accept all the people Ying to break into our country. Strong borders. Rime. Your response? Yeah, here's the response. So this we, former governor Huckabee P five members of ms-13 and sa that was Nancy Pelosi's re-election te look, George. You can go to Breitbart. They put M picre next to that of an ms-13. But that's not who they're pick up, sit? We saw the raid in tssee. In Ohio. The picking up people that are king. People tare contributing to our economy. And levering behind hundreds and thousands of American citizen chdren. Look. Thergot to be a better way to this. But there's no long as the administrationontinues to use immigration as a wedge issue. As a political issue. The president said as much yesterday. Ease, the Republicans in charge of the housof representaves. There's 24 them. I'm in the minory. The in charge of the senate. The Democrats are in the minority. They control the white house. Theyontrol the administration. They control every facet O govent and yet they say, why don't thmocrats fix the probm? I want to make everybody understands, I visitedhose detention centers along Democrats in the summer 2015. We challend the Barack Obama administration to do bter. We supported the court decision. And I want to say Ver clearly that there is a difference then secretary of homeland security Jeh Johnson, when confront with the Flore decision, that said childrenld not be kept a longer than 20 days in custody said, I will resign as secretary of homeland security before I de those moms the children.god bless hiand those kinds of policies which areumane policies, where people put families ahead of political consideration orublic policy consideration. You'll oppose the Republican policys week to Al families to be detained more than 20 da Absutely. It is -- George. I wish you -- if you and the American pubc could visit these detention centers. Thesare for-profit detention centers. This is a multibillionlar industry. Hich people are making money by denying good health care. Decentd. The accommodations are horrendous. These are jails and people are profitg off the . People come to this country seeking refuge.america is a nation better than this. I'm not goi to allow children -- what are we going to do? We're going to say we're going to jail the children the pants? Understand unmitigated violence that they are suffering one thing we should make clear. Their zero terance policy, the attorney general of the united States said that a woman coming the unitestates fleeing violence, fleeing torture, fleeing abuse, that that's private matter. George, that's not private matter in the United States of America. 'S a crime in the united States. It's a very public matter. And a long time ago, we decided protectiomen and watching E abuse of women is something we'll not tolerate. In this nation of rs. So stop. As long as they continue to criminalize immigrants and Latinos, wch has been the cornerston his political strategy, we're not going to resolve this issue. But no, we said no to the Barack Obama administration. You want to know something? Barack Obama had soul. Barack Obama had a cter. You could speak to that. To his conscience and him to change his policies. Congressman, thank you. Thayou. And we're jned now by republan senator Jeff flake of