• Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, writes farmer's market on a piece of fabric at the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. The fabric is hanging at the site for people to write their ideas on what they would like to see built at the site. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union) Photo: Paul Buckowski, Albany Times Union / (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, writes farmer's market on a piece of fabric at the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. The fabric is hanging at the site for people to write their ideas on what they would like to see built at the site. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union) less
Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, writes farmer's market on a piece of fabric at the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. The fabric is hanging at the site for people to ... more
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A view of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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A view of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
A view of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
Liz Comitale, manager of Troy Farmers Market, stands down in the middle of the 1 Monument Square site on Tuesday, June 12, 2018, in Troy, N.Y. (Paul Buckowski/Times Union)
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Click through the slideshow to see how the vision for Monument Square in Troy has changed through the years:

The old Troy City Hall, shown here in 2008, never aged into the Troy cityscape the way the builders anticipated in 1974.
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Click through the slideshow to see how the vision for Monument Square in Troy has changed through the years:

The old Troy City Hall, shown here in 2008, never aged into the Troy cityscape the way the builders
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Photo: Michael P. Farrell
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City Hall was torn down in 2011, creating an opening and a vital opportunity at the heart of Troy's downtown.
City Hall was torn down in 2011, creating an opening and a vital opportunity at the heart of Troy's downtown.
Photo: Philip Kamrass
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Nearly six years later, the site still remains vacant, as numerous proposals haven't made it off the paper they were printed on. Continue viewing the slideshow to see renderings of previous attempts to develop One Monument Square.
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Nearly six years later, the site still remains vacant, as numerous proposals haven't made it off the paper they were printed on. Continue viewing the slideshow to see renderings of previous attempts to develop ... more
Photo: Will Waldron
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2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
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2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
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2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
2011: Rendering of proposed Troy waterfront development by Judge Development.
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2011: Christopher Cirillo, vice president of Richman Development Corporation, left, and John J. Nigro, President of the Nigro Cos., center, and Troy Mayor Harry Tutunjian unveil the renderings of the redevelopment of Monument Square in Troy on Tuesday, May 24, 2011.
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2011: Christopher Cirillo, vice president of Richman Development Corporation, left, and John J. Nigro, President of the Nigro Cos., center, and Troy Mayor Harry Tutunjian unveil the renderings of the ... more
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2011: Christopher Cirillo, vice president of Richman Development Corporation, left, and John J. Nigro, President of the Nigro Cos., center, and Troy Mayor Harry Tutunjian unveil the renderings of the redevelopment of Monument Square in Troy on Tuesday, May 24, 2011. less
2011: Christopher Cirillo, vice president of Richman Development Corporation, left, and John J. Nigro, President of the Nigro Cos., center, and Troy Mayor Harry Tutunjian unveil the renderings of the ... more
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2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.

2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.

Photo: Renderings By Troy City Center LLC
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2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
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2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
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2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
Photo: Renderings By Troy City Center LLC
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2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
2011: A rendering of One Monument Square proposed by Capital Region developer John Nigro.
Photo: Renderings By Troy City Center LLC
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2012: The Troy City Center LLC renderings hang on the fence by the still-undeveloped site at One Monument Square.
2012: The Troy City Center LLC renderings hang on the fence by the still-undeveloped site at One Monument Square.
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2012: The Troy City Center LLC renderings hang on the fence by the still-undeveloped site at One Monument Square.
2012: The Troy City Center LLC renderings hang on the fence by the still-undeveloped site at One Monument Square.
Photo: Michael P. Farrell
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2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
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2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
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2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
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2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
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2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
2013: Rendering of proposed design plans for One Monument Square in Troy. (Judge Development Corp.)
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2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
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2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
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2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
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2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
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2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
2014: Renderings of a $27 million project to develop One Monument Square. (CSArch, Sequence Development, and Kirchhoff-Consigli Construction Management).
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2015: Renderings of a revised proposal to a one-building development of One Monument Square (Sequence Development)
2015: Renderings of a revised proposal to a one-building development of One Monument Square (Sequence Development)
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2015: Renderings of a revised proposal to a one-building development of One Monument Square (Sequence Development)
2015: Renderings of a revised proposal to a one-building development of One Monument Square (Sequence Development)
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2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Construction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Construction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
Photo: CPereira
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2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Consruction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Consruction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
Photo: CPereira
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2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Construction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
2017: A rendering of a Bonacio Construction rendering proposing an 11-theater Bow Tie multiplex at 1 Monument Square.
Photo: CPereira
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2017: Bow Tie Cinemas pulled out of the deal in October after months of negotiations.
2017: Bow Tie Cinemas pulled out of the deal in October after months of negotiations.
Photo: Will Waldron
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TROY –  The Troy Waterfront Farmers’ Market wants to claim a place upfront in planning for building at 1 Monument Square when the city asks companies to bid on developing the vacant former City Hall site.

This would be the second attempt to get farmers’ market in a prime downtown spot with a year-round indoor location by including it in a project at 1 Monument Square.

“We want to have a permanent location here in 1 Monument Square. We believe this is the space to be,” the market's manager, Liz Comitale, said Tuesday.

The first move to build a home for the popular farmers’ market came in 2014 when Kirchhoff Companies of Pleasant Valley, Dutchess County, had plans to create $25 million mixed-use development at 1 Monument Square.

The developer proposed 17,500 square feet to house the market giving it a daily and year-round presence at the 1.2-acre site, which is between River Street and the Hudson River at the southern end of Riverfront Park where City Hall stood until it was knocked down in 2011 to prepare the site for new construction.

Those plans fell apart when Kirchhoff pulled out of the project, claiming the city had mislead it about  site's conditions. It was the third failed attempt to redevelop the location.

The fourth proposal had no room for the farmers' market.  Bow Tie Cinemas wanted to invest $22.7 million to construct a multiplex of 11 movie theaters. The company left the project also saying the city did not provide correct data about the site. Bow Tie sued the city to recover $186,065 it invested and the $60,000 payment it made to the city in the first phase of acquiring the property.

Now, the Waterfront Farmers’ Market is jumping into the city’s preparations for a fifth attempt. The city will hold meetings next week to solicit public comments and recommendations about what should be built and how it will look, tie into the park and provide access to the riverfront.

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Liz Comitale, market manager of Troy Waterfront Farmers Market, speaks about making the market part of 1 Monument Square redevelopment plans.

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The design planning session, known as a charrette, will take place on three nights at the Arts Center of the Capital Region, 265 River St., which is a block north of the vacant 1 Monument Square site.

On Monday, June 18, a short documentary will be show and discussed from 4:30-6 p.m. Monday, June 18 followed by a community workshop from 6-8 p.m.

The film, “Urban Century: America’s Return to Main Street,” by Notice Pictures depicts what residents in cities similar to Troy are doing to create vibrant downtowns.  It is being shown as a way to get people attending to complete the conversation starter, “I wish 1 Monument Square could be…”

The next meeting will be an open house to discuss design ideas from 5-8 p.m. Wednesday, June 20.

The final night will be a community design reviews from 6 -8 p.m. Thursday, June 21.

Additional information can be obtained about the community meetings by contacting the city at economic.development@troyny.gov.