Transcript for Nancy Grace and Dan Abrams on Alice Johnson's commutation & more
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What did I get won Weinstein himself has denied all allegations ofnonconsensual sex and has plead not guilty to the charges in thcase. Hewa all cosual. It's rape. You know, when you are not talking about crime on TV and radio, you're writing fictional haarc about everythi. You wrote one called "Hailey deanteries." Myher is obsessed with it. 0 eastern on the hallmark and mystery. Do you ever get sick of this kind ofthing? No. I love sng mysteries, I love solving crimes, and the thin I love Abo Hailey Dean is that at the ofhose books, it's solved and you G a nice, clean, understandable ending and justice isways served. Right an't think of a better partner than hark. 9:00 Sunday night. Dan and ll be watchint together. We have to talk about Y fabulous new book. You ha new bookut ts week. It takes us back tobraham Lincoln'st bigurder trial before he became president. What can you tell us Abo it? This is the oyranscript that exists from a case Lincoln has argued. 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