"Roundtable" are back. You partnered with Andrew Shue to conduct this focus group. You have done these discussions for a long time. You did really tense ones during the campaign. Has it gotten worse? This is worse. The organization Andrew created, one people, is created because of that. Because of those people. We did a survey right after. 82% of Americans say we're more divided than at any time in their lifetime. 4 out of 5. And it's across the board. Republican, independent, Democrat. I had trouble getting control of that group. For 12 minutes, I sat with your producers off the set. As they continued to yell at each other. Having no idea that I had even stepped away. Donna, you and I have known each other for about 20 years. Governor, for about ten years. We have to do something. We have to hold our party accountable. Say enough is enough. Because if the we don't do it, this poison is so deep and so pervasive now, it's no wonder our kids are now bullying others and yelling at each other and -- and using language that is so inappropriate. They're getting it from their parents. If we don't do something, including the news media, we'll be beyond the point of no return. Donna, you said that's why so many people are independents right now. No question. They're parking their grievances at independents. They don't want to have anything to do with either political party. At the same time, I do believe it is a responsibility that we all should take up. Last weekend, I was in charlottesville, with Michael steel. The former chair of the RNC. The former chair of the DNC and the former chair of the RNC. We sat down to find common ground. We have the tools. We need the leaders not afraid to convene these conversations. Here's the problem is that they don't have the tools. They're not taught civics. Not taught American history. Good point. So we don't even know how to have this dialogue. I don't want us to talk to each other. I want people to listen. Young people today and their parents don't know how. I think America was designed to be an argument. America was designed to be an argument. I have no problem with the argument. Problem I have, we're not listening to each other while we argue. We're arguing at each other, rather than to each other. We're arguing to make a point to a camera, not to convince each other of our goodwill. At least. If not our position. And there's a way to do this. It's harder when you're a politician to do this. A lot of our politicians right now are taking the easy way out. They're playing to the grandstand. And, as long as we continue to reward that not only with votes but with TV time for those people, you're going to keep getting it. I think when you look at 2018 to this point of people being independents, and this anger being across the entire system, I think this should be a wakeup call to Democrats. There is a perception in 2018, everybody is angry so they'll vote for Democrats. It doesn't seem people are voting across the traditional party lines. Just because they don't like what Republicans who are in control are doing doesn't mean they'll vote for Democrats. They're voting for the individual. They're going to get disgusted and not vote at all. I think there's a perception of large voter turnout. It's likely I think that people will be demoralized and not turn out. I will tell you. 2017 in New Jersey. Yeah. The lowest voter turnout for governor in the state's history. It was 36% turnout for a state-wide gubernatorial race in New Jersey. To give you an example, eight years earlier, when I was elected the first time, it was 48%. It's a big, big change.