LIVE: Trollip faces motion of no confidence vote in another special council meeting
2018-04-10 09:40
Nelson Mandela Bay Mayor Athol Trollip is expected to face another motion of no confidence, brought by the EFF, after the last special council meeting descended into chaos before the motion came up for debate.
ANC councillor Plaatjies raises an issue, says that the speaker is causing the council to degenerate. Says Sijadu blamed the speaker. She interjects and says she did not say so. He says she accused men of bringing the council to chaos. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
More points of order are raised. Lawack draws attention to rule 28.5, he says that councillors may only be interrupted when a point of order. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
PA councillor Daniels says that when people refer to slitting the throat of the white man, it is no different to hanging at the gallows.
A back and forth argument ensues.
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Daniels resumes, says there was meeting to discuss who the land actually belongs to. EFF councillor Yako interjects and says there was no meeting, it was just two people #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
ANC councillor, Andile Lungisa raises a point of order. Lawack asks him what his point of order is. Lungisas mic is off. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Daniels says he is pleasantly surprised when people talk about land. We must understand who the forefathers of land. We must decide. I am black when you need me, I'm not black when you dont. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Cope councillor Sijadu says the ANC denied Madikizela-Mandela her rightful place, and history will judge them.
10:55
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Sijadu says Cope extends their condolences to the family. says "your loss is the loss of South Africa" "The apartheid leadership feared her, because they could not control her. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Councillor Boyeye concludes by saying the issue of land expropriation without compensation must be implemented in Winnie Madikizela-Mandela's memory.
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Boyeye says one of Winnie Mandela's key issues was the land, saying she was against the concept of winning buyer, willing seller, as she knew her people did not have the capital to buy the land. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
There appears to be some sort of commotion outside council chambers.
There is some commotion taking place outside council, shouting can be heard through the closed doors, but council continues, while Boyeye addresses them on Mama Winnie. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
AIC is now to address council. Councillor Boyeye starts saying that the city is not an island, but a part of all South Africa, and are concerned about the issue of the flags, and will be looking to see who will be held accountable. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
ACDP Lance Grootboom, gives their tribute to Winnie Mandela, saying ACDP will always remember Mama Winnie as a strong woman of strong convictions, who fought for all women. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Bobani says as for Chris Hani, he was the best friend of UDM president Bantu Holomisa, which had provided shelter for Hani. "We are saying one day, the truth will come out," he said., #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
The UDM is extending its condolences to the entire family, her children, grandchildren and the African National Congress, #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Suka says that they are not calling for blood, they are just saying they want what they are entitled to. "In conclusion, the whites must give back the land."#NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
ANC councillor Litho Suka says the trouble started with the arrival of Jan van Riebeeck.
ANC councillor Suku addresses the council. Refers to Jan Van Riebeeck, he talks about the issue of expropriation without compensation. Says the white compatriots have not given an inch, but expect everything. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Mrara says Trollip must remember that their struggle is for the land. He says Trollip, as re-elected federal chair, he must place the matter on the DA agenda, else they will continue to seek to remove him as mayor. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Mrara raises issue of evictions of their own people, saying this brought back memories of the arrival of the settlers, when they took the land from forefathers. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Yako concludes, Councillor Mrara (EFF) continues. Lawack interjects, says he had not been told there were two speakers. They respond with that it is their time to speak as EFF. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Lawack reminds councillors that they are addressing the Republic of South Africa.
10:33
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Nqaba Bangha says the matter is being trivialised. Vena again interjects, shouts "You are saying we are trivialising matters, you are saying the murder of Solomon Mhlangu is trivial?" #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Speaker Lawack says the EFF can begin, says the EFF can start and get 3 minutes, Vena interjects, says the speaker is not here to represent the DA. Vena says he does not want them to speak about the settlers who came to take the land, #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Andile Lungisa (ANC) asks to include Solomon Mhlangu. EFF asks for 5 minutes, they need to discuss the matter of the settlers arriving as well. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Lawack pays tribute to Winnie Mandela, and the passing of Chris Hani. Says he will allow parties to pay tribute to these members. Each party will be allowed 2 min to pay homage. Chief whip Senekal asks to extend to 3min. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
ANC councillor Mafaya raises an issue that the council chamber is not conducive to the business of council. Says the public gallery is not big enough to accommodate the public, and seats are taken by provincial and political leaders.
10:22
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Lawack congratulates Trollip on his re-election as Federal chair and welcomes Tracey Wiese as newly elected ward 1 councillor (DA) #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Lawack issues a stern warning, stating in no unclear terms what will happen if the council meeting descends into chaos once again.
If you dont think I'm serious. If you don't conduct yourself the meeting will be called off and you will have to petition me to have a new meeting. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Speaker Lawack reminds members of the public that they are in council chambers merely as observers and guests.
Lawack says in part to blame on members of public. Says public are his guests. Says public not allowed to engage in any way and if they do he will have them removed. #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Vena asks speaker to assist. He says Daniels was selling fish here and he was paying him. Daniels chirps he was buying his vote. #NMBCouncilVote#TROLLIPVOTE@TeamNews24
100% attendance confirmed for the council meeting.
No applications for leave of absence. Lawack says, despite what papers say, he must commend council members for attendance. 100% #NMBCouncilVote#TrollipVote@TeamNews24
Reverend Meshoe of the ACDP advises our coalition caucus to, “ Disappoint everyone who wants this council meeting to descend into chaos”. Thanks Tata for your good advice. pic.twitter.com/fRDo7gvXYq
Today we defend Nelson Mandela Bay against those who wish to steal our City & loot the public purse. Our Election 2016 mandate was to deliver change & better services, while eradicating corruption. Already we have made progress & will continue to take this City forward. #SaveNMB
