Interesting and more or less spot on I reckon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-41737483
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Interesting and more or less spot on I reckon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-41737483
Is the answer because the public at large are pricks?
Spot on? It never reaches any conclusions, it's just a series of experiences and opinions.
Safety.
Sexist abuse.
Etc
etc
Conclusions I would say?
This seems to be an article less about cycling, and more about the nature of modern-day Britain i.e. Full of dicks. However, much of what the story mentions could be applied to both sexes: For example, I've had my arse slapped by a passing motorist. I've had "witty" comments aimed at me whilst cycling, and running, for that matter.
I'm not saying their comments aren't legitimate, just that the article seems rather blinkered.
Depressing reading. But the bit where she says a bloke said "keep pedalling, nearly there" and she found it patronising? I've had it said to me and I've said it to other blokes. I guess there is a difference between intention and perception.
I shall try to remember all this advice:
Don't boast of your long rides
Don't cultivate a "bicycle face"
Don't refuse assistance up a hill
Don't use bicycle slang. Leave that to the boys
Don't go out after dark without a male escort
Don't scratch a match on the seat of your bloomers
Don't appear in public until you have learned to ride well
Don't appear to be up on "records" and "record smashing"
. . . even though it's from 1895
Yeah, 1895 was a good year for women's cycling.Lol
That was a quote from an American author.
I bet the UK was even more repressed about women on bikes! Lol
Don't go out after dark without a male escort
That could get expensive this time of year
"I've even had 'keep pedalling, nearly there' - from a male cyclist. They wouldn't have said it to another man, it's so patronising and uncalled for.
As someone who enters races well beyond his fitness level, blokes definitely say it to other blokes...
Is it OK to say that I cringe when I read rubbish like that? Sometimes women just need to WTFU and ignore stupid words shouted by stupid males.
Was talking to my daughter at the weekend, she won't go running without a friend. WTF? And this, motivation, I think is a large part of the problem with women. I told her to join my old running club, that went down well!
*shakes fluffy little head*
Spot on? Not really.
1) "The roads aren't safe" - not true, most of them are. Just avoid the bad ones, it's not usually difficult.
2) "Keep pedalling, nearly there" - she suggests that wouldn't happen to a man - well, it does. All the sodding time. Along with any number of other stupid comments. Not usually sexual harassment though.
It's not that the public are all pricks either. I might get comments from a few dozen cars a year, depending on when I ride. But I've been passed by countless thousands.
cinnamon_girl - Member
Is it OK to say that I cringe when I read rubbish like that?
No, that's not alright, it's sexist!
Excuses excuses. It's tiresome.
Edit: just to say that I've had some flippin' good times on my bike as well as running and walking all over the place and I've survived... for 25 years and the majority of the time on my own.
cinnamon_girl - Member
Excuses excuses. It's tiresome.
The women in the article you mean?
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It's not that the public are all pricks either. I might get comments from a few dozen cars a year, depending on when I ride. But I've been passed by countless thousands.
Absolute proof that there aren't a load of pricks out there
Yes. I think I'd be good as a motivational speaker.
2) "Keep pedalling, nearly there" - she suggests that wouldn't happen to a man - well, it does. All the sodding time. Along with any number of other stupid comments. Not usually sexual harassment though.
Yeah, that thought crossed my mind, too. Yes, people can be dicks, but some women need to stop being so sensitive. Just get out there and do it. Prove the idiots wrong.**
**Note: I am not legitimising sexism, just saying that not everything is intended as sexism. Even if it was, why should it stop you from doing something you enjoy doing? Plus, where would women be today if the likes of Emmeline Pankhurst were deterred by what people said.
cinnamon_girl - Member
Yes. I think I'd be good as a motivational speaker.
There is someone I wish you could motivate to ride but it's not a woman! Lol
mikey74 »2) "Keep pedalling, nearly there" - she suggests that wouldn't happen to a man - well, it does. All the sodding time. Along with any number of other stupid comments. Not usually sexual harassment though.Yeah, that thought crossed my mind, too. Yes, people can be dicks, but some women need to stop being so sensitive. Just get out there and do it. Prove the idiots wrong.**
**Note: I am not legitimising sexism, just saying that not everything is intended as sexism. Even if it was, why should it stop you from doing something you enjoy doing? Plus, where would women be today if the likes of Emmeline Pankhurst were deterred by what people said.
Yes, people can be dicks, but some women need to stop being so sensitive.
I'm not going that far. It's much easier to shrug off when you're a reasonable sized bloke than when you're a woman. Just pointing out that whilst the impact of this stuff is different for women, the actions of the **** in cars are common to both.
I don't like the article though. I wouldn't be surprised if it put even more women off or dented a lot of confidences.
Stop trolling scotroutes!
I wouldn't be surprised if it put even more women off or dented a lot of confidences.
Spot on mol.
I get told "nearly there" or "keep going mate" all the time...
Im not a woman just a fat bastard that looks like he is going to keel over at any second
Mikey - sounds like that might be a mans name. A number of folk will be along any minute now to inform you that you have no right to comment on account of you having a penis.
It is indeed. You may be correct, but I stand by my right to express an opinion, penis n'all.
I don't like the article though. I wouldn't be surprised if it put even more women off or dented a lot of confidences.
Agreed!
wigglesIm not a woman just a fat bastard that looks like he is going to keel over at any second
You just described me.
There is someone I wish you could motivate to ride but it's not a woman! Lol
Shall I try?
cinnamon_girl - Member
There is someone I wish you could motivate to ride but it's not a woman! Lol
Shall I try?
Nah, have to finish eating this kebab at the mo.
first thing I saw was all the pics of women cyclists are in lycra and helmets. thats enough to put many non enthusiast cyclists off.
"all the pics of women cyclists are in lycra and helmets"
Scroll down a bit further, tj - there are some very fetching straw boaters.
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