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Well, the presidential health check has been released...
He’s in perfect health!
Though, a smidge overweight at 239lbs (he’s 6’3”).
Doc reckons that if donny had had a healthier diet for the last few years he could have lived to 200 (I wish I was joking...)
https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2018/01/17/7-strangest-things-need-to-know-donald-trump-medical-check-up/
On the plus side, it does mean he’s fit enough to stand trial, for anything that might come up...
Conversely if Trump does really well at the mid-terms
Or even passably well.
The account of how the Immigration reform talks failed was a classic example of Trump's management style - ie he loves nothing better than lulling his staff into a false sense of security by making encouraging noises, then pulls the rug to get them fighting like rats in a sack.
Looks like this may backfire as the group which came up with the bipartisan proposals is trying to get them voted through despite the Trump ambush. Durkin thinks there may be the Republican support to do it.
Then they'll present him with a Bill to sign and see if he does as promised.
So there are increasing signs that GOP members are prepared to bypass the Oval Office and work with the Democrats. The more often that happens, the less likely it is that Trump will get any more of his legendary 'wins'.
tomhoward - Member
Well, the presidential health check has been released...He’s in perfect health!
Surely the bone spurs must cause him serious disability?
NHS Choice says
BMI 29. Overweight.
Your BMI is above the ideal range and indicates you are overweight. This means you are heavier than is healthy for someone of your height. Excess weight can put you at increased risk of heart disease, stroke and type 2 diabetes. It's time to take action.
Sad.
Simpsons predicted the future again
This is hilarious....just enjoy the Trump presidency, we'll probably never get another like it...it'll be back to bland PR career politicians soon enough.
Regarding the health issue...i seem to recall speculation about Hillary's health was demonised for being irresponsible, unfair, amateurish etc.. love the double standards now Trump is President.
deviant - Member
This is hilarious....just enjoy the Trump presidency, we'll probably never get another like it...it'll be back to bland PR career politicians soon enough.
I see you didn't bother to reply to the polling challenges.
I made my opinions on the polls perfectly clear...i wouldn't read too much into them...they got it spectacularly wrong with Brexit, Trump and latterly they had May winning a landslide in the snap election...only for Corbyn to nearly take it instead.
If you're going to set your stall out by what the polls are telling you then you're going to be very confused by upcoming events in the next few years.
latterly they had May winning a landslide in the snap election...only for Corbyn to nearly take it instead.
Yes, I can see you don't pay much attention.
I agree there has been a change in global politics, but I also think some of the "polls were wrong" sentiment is misplaced.
The chance of throwing a double six on two fair dice is 1/36.
If someone throws a double six that doesn't mean that the prediction was "spectacularly wrong".
Brexit and Trump weren't accidents...there is discontent among the wider public...politicians ignore it at their peril.
For the first time ever, I agree with Deviant on something.
There is indeed discontent, politicians have taken their eye off the ball for too long but I don't understand how Brexit and Trump will address the problems of stagnant wage growth, erosion of job security and income inequality and house price inflation.
Rhetoric about Mexicans (and immigrants in general), Muslims and the colour of passports don't address the fundamental problems of an economy that's run out of steam having been on borrowed time since the banking crisis. Too much money has been prized out of the pockets of people and sucked upward (and inevitably to overseas tax havens), however it would seem that both Trumpism and the policies we're seeing as a result of Brexit merely apply a sticking plaster to an ailing economy whilst making those at the very top even richer still. For America at least, the price for this is a regressive tax system, severely curtailed environmental protection (witness how NASA has been heavily censored by the US government). I don't understand how such policies as pursued by the Trump government are defensible in any rational sense.
If you're going to set your stall out by what the polls are telling you then you're going to be very confused by upcoming events in the next few years.
That was all in the poll data and analysis, just not if you read the first number.
they got it spectacularly wrong with Brexit,
really? I thought it was to be a narrow victory for remain, rather than a narrow victory for leave
as with trump, polls narrowed considerable toward the end, though less so with the last election.
Its obvious that discontent and reversing of opportunities is unsettling many western countries.
Believeing self-serving demagogues who scape-goat immigrants is something that youd think wed learnt doesnt deliver
I'm pretty sure the only people who pay attention to polls are 1. the pollsters, 2 the people showing in front on the poll, and 3, the TV station that shows it.
most folk treat them for what they are: an indication, and nothing more.
I'll bet money there's a poll somewhere showing how many people beleive the results of polls...
.they got it spectacularly wrong with Brexit, Trump and latterly they had May winning a landslide in the snap election
There was definitely bad polling in that case due to younger voters being missed out.
As I understand it it was not so much left out as under emphasised. More young people turned up to vote than expected so whilst they voted the way the pollsters thought they would their percentage of the total was miscalculated as they based their proportions on pervious turn out figures.
I think the concept of people telling the polling companies one thing and voting another is a really interesting one. This is not fibbing to friends or relatives but a perfect stranger they will never meet again. Sort of thinking what they beleive in is 'wrong' or not publically acceptable. A dirty secret of being a biggot or racist they can only admit to themselves in the privacy of the polling booth.
CountZero - Member
America and TrumpBrexit is like watching a multi-vehicle pile-up in super slo-mo; endlessly and horrifyingly fascinating to watch, unable to tear your eyes away from the spectacle.
FTFY.
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As I understand it it was not so much left out as under emphasised.
A dirty secret of being a biggot or racist they can only admit to themselves in the privacy of the polling booth.
Rhetoric about Mexicans (and immigrants in general), Muslims and the colour of passports don't address the fundamental problems of an economy that's run out of steam having been on borrowed time since the banking crisis.
It's been on borrowed time since the end of western colonialism. China is reasserting itself as it's natural position as the most powerful trading entity in the world - a title it has held for thousands of years. The west being dominant was a minor hiccup, we'll be a backwater state at the mercy of Chinese economic hegemony given time.
good article on how close the polls were on trump
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-behind-clinton/
i think its more that the media underrated him than pollsters, NYT for example, while WP had been warning for a while
nyt had a good article here show how trumps always been a racist
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html?_r=0
a title it has held for thousands of years.
It seems to skip over lots of minor details in history though such as the mongols etc.
This is a bit like saying the British aren't British because of the Romans, China is Han dominated now - but the geographical region of China itself has always been a mix of various clans, ethnicities and dynasties vying for power of the state. That doesn't detract from the fact that the region itself has always held enormous power, despite whoever is governing it.
Here's a nice graph showing why it was a really spiffingly clever idea to leave the EU and lower our negotiation power.
Note how that between 1-1000AD China held twice the share of GDP than Western Europe and would have made Anglo Saxon Britain on it's own look like the medieval equivalent to the Congo.
Apparently Republicans getting ever more worried about the midterms
genuine concern they could lose both house of reps & senate as reps aligned & non-aligned with trump have been getting a pasting in elections lately
even if he is delivering jobs & stock market at same rate or even better than Obama
at the moment though republicans are losing large numbers of minority & female voters, that had held their noses & voted for trump in 2016
whether dems could ride that momentum until november?
(also any potential meuller impeachment would need dems to control both houses, unless he unearths something really dodgy)
This is a bit like saying the British aren't British because of the Romans
That doesn't detract from the fact that the region itself has always held enormous power, despite whoever is governing it.
That graph isnt overly useful either. Bit odd they couldnt be bothered included what was there before the USA (which might give a hint about weaknesses in its methodology). That it has a drop during one of the good times in "Chinese" history from about 700 upwards is odd. As is the lack of any significant drop during the initial Mongol invasion. Admittedly they played elsewhere as well but given the impact of the Mongol conquest I cant help but think there should have been a rather large drop in GDP.
The Mongols were pretty good at trade....howver the two datapoints are 1000 and 1500. The Mongol invasion lasted under a century and occurred around 1200. Also remember that "share of GDP" doesn't equate to total GDP. Whilst the mongol invasion was kicking off, Indias share was also dropping.
I'm not sure why the Americas are not including - but it might have something to do with the continent having very little bearing on the global economy at that time - whilst China, India and Europe were all heavily linked through trade.
What is clear is that the east dwarfed the west for a long long time - and that balance is being restored. Trying to deny that just seems to be attempt to bury ones head in the sand.
No it really isnt. Its stating that under Roman rule Britain was Roman and not an unbroken line to today.
Taking this approach fails to appreciate how China has always been a multicultural society. For example the Qing dynasty was founded by the Jurchen but arguably held together by the Han. At the end of the day, it was still China.
Daffy - Member
CountZero - Member
America and TrumpBrexit is like watching a multi-vehicle pile-up in super slo-mo; endlessly and horrifyingly fascinating to watch, unable to tear your eyes away from the spectacle.FTFY.
at the moment though republicans are losing large numbers of minority & female voters, that had held their noses & voted for trump in 2016whether dems could ride that momentum until november?
(also any potential meuller impeachment would need dems to control both houses, unless he unearths something really dodgy)
Bit touchy there CZ...
The Mongols were pretty good at trade.
What is clear is that the east dwarfed the west for a long long time - and that balance is being restored. Trying to deny that just seems to be attempt to bury ones head in the sand.
At the end of the day, it was still China.
The question then becomes do they think they can survive rolling him before then and hold onto one of them
Did I see something earlier saying that Donny's "Fake News Awards" were now just a possibility rather than definitely happening? Are the fake news awards fake news?
Did you mean the Qin?That one was close to just a switch in power but then you have the three Kingdoms etc after that.
It just seems a rather rose tinted view of things to simplify it into just China.
But anyway enough derailing of this thread.
No, the Qin and Qing are two different dynasties.
The west is no longer outpacing the east so vastly in terms of technology that we are able monopolise the world economy through colonialism. The whole of the far east is in a period of rapid growth - the share of the east's GDP is going to dwarf ours based on sheer population once the economic re-balance is over. Western economic and technological prowess was literally a blip, a few hundred years - with most of the rest of history dominated by the East.
Our foreign policy and cultural attitudes towards our place in the world need to change in response to that shift, or we will be left behind - staring up our own arseholes (eg Brexit).
So lets take a bit of time and come up with a quote that will be snappy and to the point and definitely can't be misquoted
Donald Trump's son Eric says President not racist, he 'sees one colour, green'
Confusing but so far so good
Donald Trump looks down at an American dollar bill and signs it for a fan.
PHOTO: US President Donald Trump only sees one colour, the colour of money, his son says. (Reuters: Chris Pizzello)
Donald Trump's son says the US President is not a racist and can only see one colour — green, the colour of money.The Washington Post reported Mr Trump became frustrated after politicians floated reinstating protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan deal.
According to two people briefed on the meeting, Mr Trump said: "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?".
Mr Trump suffered a backlash over the comments and was accused of being racist, but his son called the suggestions "total nonsense".
"My father sees one colour, green. That's all he cares about. He cares about the economy," he said.
Yep his only interest in you is what he can make from you.
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