I can see they'd be popular second cars so I wouldn't worry too much about low mileage for the age
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How good are Kia Rios + (General First car buying advice )
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Try 1400 and see what they say. Be happy with something less than 1500.
I've just messaged him with two offers one for1450 and one for 1500, and this guy is sticking to his guns and wants 1570. He's a small dealer tho so god only knows how much he paid for it.
What do you think I should do? I know it's a good car but 1570 is steep for a 12 year old motor for me. Hmm then again cars like this are hard to find to.
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PS can maybe some of you follow this thread as it helps me out a lot and I'll kep it going until I find a car. Also could be useful for other inexperienced car buyers I guess.
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why do you feel its worth less without even looking at it ? its a pet hate of mine when people start trying to negotiate without seeing the *highly variable* product.... its not a pint of milk , even the same age/milage and service history does not make comparible vehicles.
As i said the other day before someone tried to call me out on it .
from looking for anotehr circa 8-10 year old car for the wife the market really has shrunk due to the fact that many dealers are offering discounts calling them scrappage schemes (but nothing more than guaranteed trade in values , they are no government backed scrappage schemes) alot of the good quality used cars(that have been peoples pride and joy rather than a 27 owner abused bucket) at this age are being hoovered up away from the private market and are going through auction back onto small used car dealers at a mark up.....
privately that rio would be about 800 quid ill bet- by the time he pays auction fees , checks it out and sticks on the warrenty(not cheap on an old car) he has to give by law - and a mark up.....
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why do you feel its worth less without even looking at it ? its a pet hate of mine when people start trying to negotiate without seeing the *highly variable* product.... its not a pint of milk , even the same age/milage and service history does not make comparible vehicles.
I Type same model and make of car with similar miles same year history and owners etc, click completed items on websites such as Gumtree and eBay, shows cars similar That have been sold within the last year, work out the average of the sale price, and that's the going rate to the buyer and I use this tactic for a lot of things I buy and is pretty reliable for around 10-15% of the going rate.
Also I am assuming that this car is in fantastic condition so I think I am checking honorably.
This carcould achieve that price but I do think from what I've seen that this car is priced at the higher end of its worth.and as we all do I simply want the best deal I can get for what I have to spend. I also need to consider travelling expenses and so I need to work out if it's worth it for me before even going to. View the car.
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and are those completed sales coming from a dealer with a warrenty ? or privately sold as seen ?
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and are those completed sales coming from a dealer with a warrenty ? or privately sold as seen ?
It's a mixture of both but I'll add 2 to 300 more if the car is being sold by a dealer.
privately that rio would be about 800 quid ill bet- by the time he pays auction fees , checks it out and sticks on the warrenty/"quote"
Actually the seller told me he doesnt buy from auctions rather the internet.
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trail_rat - Member
i missed the part where regular servicing sorted out seals that had perished from lack of lubrication and use.....
We're talking about a modern car that isn't used much, not a relic from the 70s with much lower quality seals that has been sat for years without moving.
Whilst your experience is not incorrect, it almost certainly isn't applicable.but feel free to keep the confirmation bias as you quite smuggly put it the other day.
Ah, you're the chap that likes to pay over the odds for crap cars.
FWIW, you solicited that reply, and despite having given up driving so I have the ecological high ground over Edukator, I am still called upon to help family and friends shop for vehicles, so you're assumption is quite wrong.
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We're talking about a modern car that isn't used much, not a relic from the 70s with much lower quality seals that has been sat for years without moving.
Whilst your experience is not incorrect, it almost certainly isn't applicable.
Basically he is saying a high mileage car is more reliable than a low mileage car. It's a point to consider but as you say now way a deal breaker.I'd sure put my money on the lower mileage car, less time on the road, less chance of bumps and scrapes etc or badly driven . I am a the poor car peasant here and Mr Rat clearly is superior because he pays a lot more for a higher mileage car.
Question is if you had to bet what car would get engine problems first in 40 k miles time (for me is achievable) what would you choose?
A well looked after 26 k diesel that's been stood a lot of its life or for argument sake a well Looked after 65 k diesel (going price for £1500 o8 - 09/Rio).which will sell for more(spec4spec)?
What do I know anyway eh I was the one who asked for help in first place
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Well if it's like that crack on . I'm sure it'll be a great car as I said- it's not me that has to fix it
Try sbob he seems well experience in the whole matter he says so above
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Question is if you had to bet what car would get engine problems first in 40 k miles time (for me is achievable) what would you choose?
A Vauxhall.
I've known of a few Vauxhalls to have terminal engine problems at <100,000 miles. Shouldn't happen to any modern car.
Try sbob he seems well experience in the whole matter
Well yes I am quite experienced in the whole matter, although I will admit that my manufacturing experience has predominantly been in motorsport and pre-production prototypes.
That's probably how I'm more aware of the increase in quality of seals and lubricants compared to those of yesteryear. Posted 3 minutes ago #
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