Internal cables still rub the frame, it's just that you can't see it 
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Internal Cable Routing...why
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Posted 1 week ago #
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MTBs are still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to integration and the continued insistence of bolting on aftermarket brakes or mix-and-matching groupsets or aftermarket dropper posts which means that loads of "integrated" cables are actually really messy.
I'm not sure the ability to swap and mix and match is a bad thing!
But MTB's are used in a different and in the UK muddier environment than road bikes.
I buy Jagwire outer in 10m lengths and replace inners whenever ... because mud and stuff will get in regardless. I just like it to be as quick and simple as possible to change. Anything with rubber seals on the internal routing is just a pain to deal with. Pretty much any Alu or Carbon frame the actual routing isn't the problem (if you own some magnets) its the damned seals/grommets take far longer than the routing.Posted 1 day ago # -
I like it. Built my Kinesis up and it took a couple of goes to thread an inner through, tape it to the hose and pull back.
I've had a hydraulic hose get snagged and start leaking, however I'm not convinced internal routing solves that, as it still runs down the fork leg or pops out of the chainstay which is where you would normally snag it.
Looks nice, doesn't get in the way of attaching frame/bike packing bags with velcro, and the bike is easier to wash.
Posted 1 day ago # -
Transition Carbon Patrol dropper routing is an absolute shocking piece of design!
Posted 23 hours ago # -
I only have a road bike with internal routing and dislike it immensely. Too much faff no actual performance benefits for most people on or off road...
It's an aesthetic thing to my mind, borrowed from road bikes and done because half of the magpies buying mountain bikes now just like pretty things...
Posted 22 hours ago # -
Internal cable routing: for the 'looks' only
function / service / upgrade: pain in the ass.
Will never buy such a bike!Posted 22 hours ago # -
Internal cable runs made me take my bike to a mechanic for the first time ever. I am sure I could have replaced the cable myself but I just couldn't face the aggravation
Posted 18 hours ago # -
I like it. Built my Kinesis up and it took a couple of goes to thread an inner through, tape it to the hose and pull back.
Doing it once isn't the issue... try running something like a Reverb where you have to pull the thing out every few weeks after its "worn in"... then the cable/hose seals are going in and out... I always end up damaging them bit either getting them in or out... so over doing it a few times the seals/grommets get even harder to fit back... and of course you'd replace the thing but that means pulling the brake hose out as well...
Neither of my frames are routed brilliantly nor really badly... but both a a real pain to get the grommets out/back ... so they are a pain even when you don't need to pull a complete cable or hose out... especially the ones that take 2 ...
Posted 36 minutes ago # -
My Cervelo is pretty easy, changed front mech cable in about ten minutes. It's not internal routing that's the issue, it's poorly though out internal routing. Hydraulic disc road bikes with the brakes the wrong want round, internal routing and the bar tape already done, now that's an issue.
Posted 28 minutes ago #
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