Anyone know if the bead on the Hutchinson is any more generous than the one on the Schwalbe Pro One? Have the 25mm Pro One and it seems impossible to seat on my tubeless rims, just way too tight.
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Hutchinson v Schwalbe road tubeless bead
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Posted 8 hours ago #
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Just played this game last weekend. Both too tight to work with Reynolds assault and strike wheel sets
Posted 8 hours ago # -
I've a load of fusion 5's bought cheap if you want to try one.
Posted 7 hours ago # -
Beej that would be very much appreciated, thanks
Shall PM you and sort something out.
Posted 7 hours ago # -
I used the Schwalbe pro ones 28s. They were very tight on my rims, took multiple attempts to inflate with a pop bottle air shot, and the grip in winter was not good at all. Last straw was getting a puncture that didn’t seal, and I battled for 20 min to get the tyre off.
Changed to Hutchinson Sector 28s. Went on easy, easy to get off, easy to inflate, and much better all round trip in the cold and wet.
Posted 7 hours ago # -
Hmm yes, ran the Pro one with a tube in for a few rides and didn’t like it that much TBH. Even then it wasn’t properly seated and a bit lumpy. Ridiculously tight on my rims.
Posted 7 hours ago # -
I was going to say, pro one are pretty tight (and flimsy too if you've any flint on the roads) IME and also that Hutchinson secteur are easier.
I didn't dislike the pro one for grip but I'm a bit of a fair weather rider really and actually they didn't really stay on long enough to find out. The IRC ones with the rice husk (
) in did seem pretty grippy though, and a bit more resilient too. Secteurs also fairly grippy & resilient.
Posted 7 hours ago # -
Pedro's tyre levers, my Pro Ones are tight on my Chinese carbon rims but go on fine with these levers.
Posted 6 hours ago # -
Both the Pro Ones and Hutchinson sector tyres went on my Grail rims using just my thumbs.
The Schwalbes feel nicer but have poor grip in the cold and wet.
Posted 6 hours ago # -
I can just about get the Pro One's on the rim but nothing I can do seems to convince them to stay seated. Last straw was them becoming unseated and falling back down towards the well on a ride. Maybe doable with some sort of super compressor but even then a loss of pressure for whatever reason on a ride and I'd never be able to get them seated again.
Posted 6 hours ago # -
We can meet at midnight in the car park by the field where you practice cyclocross.
Or, see my PM back.
I think I found the Fusions easier - using the all-weather at the moment on winter bike, excellent so far, great wet grip.
Posted 5 hours ago # -
Running pro one tubeless on my giant slr 0 carbon wheels and a set on superstar arc rims no major hassle fitting/seating
Posted 4 hours ago # -
Running Schwalbe pro ones 25 on Reynolds assault. No issues. Top tips:
1 Put some stans on the bead, makes it a bit more slippery to help ease it on.
2 Instead of tyre leavers get the tyre on until your at that impossible last 6 inches.
3 Trap the last 6 inches between your foot and garage floor then leaver the wheel away a bit from your foot. Use yourr foot to force the tyre on. A bit st a time. Works better with shoes with hard soles.Sounds a bit heath Robinson but once you get it you'll find it's quite easy.
Tubeless road is very good, done about 10k km and no punctures, less road buzz and better grip with lower pressures
Posted 4 hours ago # -
I then remove the valve core, air it up with compressor snapping it into position. You should hear a loud crack. Add stans and ensure it coats the inside of the tyre by twirling it around. Blow up to 100psi and leave overnight to make sure the bead is fully seated.
Adjust tyre pressures and go ride. 65 front 70 rear 68kg guy
Posted 4 hours ago # -
Broke a 6" tyre spanner trying to get Pro ones onto Kinetic one rims, used soap, stans, extra rim tape, hot tyres and a full on compressor with the 200L tank full at just about max pressure and no joy. Walked out to calm down after smashing my knuckles before I attacked the tyres with a Stanley knife to get them off. They're back in the box now and the old tyres are back on the bike. Far as I'm concerned this tyre-wheel combo doesn't work. Will try some Sectors instead, eventually as just put Stans in the inner tube
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Posted 4 hours ago #
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My only pro one experience was a puncture second ride that was too big to seal with Stans, or Dynaplug and then I couldn’t unseat the tyre bead to get a tube in
Thumbs were cold, but took about 45 mins in the workshop the next day
Genuinely don’t know whether to repair and reinflate or to cut my losses
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Posted 3 hours ago #
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Not all tyre rims are the same from my experience. Like the video - fake news!
If you don't want your pro ones send them this way Sheck You must have been unlucky to get such a large hole. Use your foot to break the seal. Ive been using tubeless now for 8 years on MTB never had a puncture stans hasn't sealed. Most I don't notice until I take the tyre off and notice the thorns stuck in the tyre.
Posted 3 hours ago # -
Pawsey.
I could do all that or use the tool I picked up for £7
They’re great.I’ve been tubeless on some bikes for 15 years or so and not really had too many issues with MTB or road. However, this tyre wheel combo is super sensitive.
At anything less than about 80 psi the bead unseats and drops back to the middle of the rim. Added more tape, even tighter to fit the tyre, same issue. More tape, same issue.
Another side issue is not being able to get them off the rim again so I just cut the beads and chucked them away.
Posted 3 hours ago # -
Oh never seen that tool before.
Posted 2 hours ago # -
Linky to tool?
Posted 2 hours ago # -
I can just about get the Pro One's on the rim but nothing I can do seems to convince them to stay seated. Last straw was them becoming unseated and falling back down towards the well on a ride. Maybe doable with some sort of super compressor but even then a loss of pressure for whatever reason on a ride and I'd never be able to get them seated again.
On the some non Tubeless axis 2 wheels I used a cheap ebay copy of stans rim tape and built it up so the well was covered and the tyre dges were sliding accross the tape. Popped em up with an airshot I think.
I do carry a tube as well as I think i its a low volume tyre you'll be lucky if its a big puncture itll go fully down and its hit and mis whether the tyred will stay seated enough for you to inflate, although ive seen mine go right down and Ive been able to recover. YMMV
The bigger schwalbe g-ones are ace thou as theygo soft then seal so a few strokes and your back to normal.
Posted 2 hours ago # -
nothing I can do seems to convince them to stay seated
have your rims got "proper" UST-style ridges? They should hold the bead on once it's seated so sounds like they're not fully engaged
I'm guessiing that you do pump up to pretty high pressures.
Are the beads clean & smooth, without moulding lumps ?
Other than ensuring the beads are "clean" and then slathering the rim (for me, not bead) in slightly dilute fairy liquid - shrug
Posted 2 hours ago # -
I may be not remembererising corretly it but Im sure when i've had bugger tyre wheel combos I've put tubes in and rode em for a while then reattempted with more success.
Probably Stretching the tyre tbh.
Like most things in life lots of lube is a must when mounting thou
Posted 2 hours ago # -
Linky to tool?
Just google bbb tyre tool. X-tool and others brand the same generic tool so buy whatever is cheapest.
Posted 2 hours ago # -
IYou should hear a loud crack.
I was explaining this to someone in work that theres nothing as cool as that trye seating noise.
Its like the satisfying clunk you get when doing a car clutch and the splines align an the gearbox and engine pop back togeather.(after the mad shakey shakey)
Posted 2 hours ago #
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