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The dangers of WiFi and Mobile radiation?

34 posts & 27 voices | Started 1 hour ago by Ferris-Beuller | Latest reply from molgrips

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Ferris-Beuller - Member

Right, are there any??

The bread knife has been reading articles and is now adamant that it's the next big thing health wise.

Me, the jury's out and i'm leaning to the side of cynicism.

Apparently it disrupts sleep (never had any trouble) and a bunch of other things that have never happened to me....

Just wondering if there are any strong opinions one way or the other out there in the STW ether??

I would think after 20 years plus of increasing EMF's there would be something more conclusive than someone selling crystals to 'fix' it.

Over to you.....

Posted 1 hour ago #
GrahamS - Member

Basically the same thing as radio and TV broadcasts, which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Therefore natural and all good

Posted 1 hour ago #
wobbliscott - Member

And all the radio signals we're constantly bombarded with from outer space. We're bathed in a constant shower of radiation all the time.

Posted 1 hour ago #
HoratioHufnagel - Member

It's 100% nonsense with no scientific backing whatsoever.

Posted 1 hour ago #
IHN - Member

Right, are there any??

No, because they're

basically the same thing as sunlight.

and

We're bathed in a constant shower of radiation all the time.

Posted 1 hour ago #
molgrips - Member

What articles has she been reading? Check their provenance and credentials first.

Posted 1 hour ago #
matt_outandabout - Member

Do you have a crystal egg to hand?

Posted 1 hour ago #
the-muffin-man - Member

Posted 1 hour ago #
trailwagger - Member

As long as you have a big egg shaped crystal you`ll be fine

Edit * ^^ egg beaten to it

Posted 1 hour ago #
molgrips - Member

Basically the same thing as radio and TV broadcasts, which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Ah no, not really. Would you stick your head in a box with a bright torch inside? Probably. Would you stick your head in a microwave? Probably not. How about a box containing Caesium-137?

Posted 1 hour ago #
whitestone - Member

There was the thread about someone's work colleague that might be worth reading I think there was a comment about this sort of thing only affecting English speakers, hmm.

Posted 1 hour ago #
Spud - Member

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wireless-networks-wi-fi-radio-waves-and-health/wi-fi-radio-waves-and-health

Posted 1 hour ago #
GrahamS - Member

Would you stick your head in a microwave?

Posted 1 hour ago #
grumpysculler - Member

which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Except for the different classifications and therefore effects of different frequencies. X-rays and gamma rays aren't quite so safe (same sort of wave, different frequency). UV is a lot worse than wifi for sunburn...

I do a lot of non-ionising radiation safety stuff at work. It is well documented and researched, although there are still few long term (several decades) studies. We've been bombarded with this sort of stuff since radio and TV were invented.

Stuff is safe within prescribed limits which are very cautious (occupational exposure limits are 10x public exposure, but still thought of as safe).

Blind/placebo studies on people who claim that they suffer ill health have all shown it doesn't make any difference. In one case, people who claimed to suffer were invited to a retreat. After a week a mobile phone mast was placed outside and they were told it had been switched on. Some folk got hospitalised, their symptoms were so bad. So after another week they told the test subjects that the mast was switched off and everyone suddenly got better. Of course, the point at which they said it was turned off was when they actually switched it on...

Posted 1 hour ago #
teamslug - Member

A friend of mine had a seizure and was diagnosed with a brain tumour about 5 months ago. He was told to stop using his mobile phone straight away?. I realise that's a different kind of signal. The human race would be wiped out by now if Wifi etc affected our health.

Posted 1 hour ago #
leffeboy - Member

Yep. I know someone who claims to suffer from this so I turn the WiFi off when they are around and they feel better - even though there are lots of stronger stations around. It seems that the fear of it is much worse than anything actually caused by the 'radiation'

He was told to stop using his mobile phone straight away?
I'm ok with that though. The strength of the field drops off proportionally to the square of the distance. The field from a gsm right next to your head will be way more than anything radiated from wireless hubs or the such like

Posted 1 hour ago #
oldejeans - Member

During my career I have worked extensively with the same microwave frequencies as WiFi and mobile comms, at significantly higher power levels (i.e. 100's of kilowatts) than those emitted by mobile handsets and wifi routers. I and my colleagues have always slept very well

Posted 1 hour ago #

hols2 - Member

A space blanket may help.

Posted 1 hour ago #
iffoverload - Member

sometimes wireless devices develop faults and continue to function but are putting out a lot more signal or harmonics etc than they should.

A neighbour had an alarm system that was repeately triggering, engineer could not work it out tested and replaced everything, one day they upgraded the wifi router and it stopped happening....

slept well ever since.

*invests in tinfoil*

Posted 1 hour ago #
rene59 - Member

Depends on how close you are to the mobile phone mast. Stand close enough for long enough in the right location and it will **** you up.

Posted 1 hour ago #
JoeG - Member

hols2 - Member

A space blanket may help.

Space blanket? That's for amateurs! Try https://www.bellyarmor.com/

Posted 1 hour ago #
aracer - Member

I suggest you check on the internet

Posted 1 hour ago #
deadkenny - Member

whitestone - Member
There was the thread about someone's work colleague that might be worth reading I think there was a comment about this sort of thing only affecting English speakers, hmm.

Yeah...

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/colleague-keeps-switching-off-the-wifi-as-it-makes-her-feel-ill

Bonkers!

Posted 1 hour ago #
wobbliscott - Member

Actually we're mostly empty space, so though we're under constant bombardment from radio waves from a variety of different sources there is very little actual physical interactions. Most particles pass through out bodies and don't actually collide with any of our bodies particles, so unlikely to cause any cellular damage.

Posted 1 hour ago #
minley1 - Member

Well I can speak from first hand experience of this.
Once whilst using my mobile on our WiFi connection at home I developed a terrible headache (the type where you rub your temples and suck air through the gaps in your teeth, so serious business).
I switched of the WiFi, took some anadin extra and went to Sleep.
The very next day my headache was completely gone!

So science...over to you!

Posted 59 minutes ago #
Cougar - Moderator

A neighbour had an alarm system that was repeately triggering, engineer could not work it out tested and replaced everything, one day they upgraded the wifi router and it stopped happening....

slept well ever since.

*invests in tinfoil*

Are you an alarm system?

Posted 58 minutes ago #
Cougar - Moderator

So science...over to you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

Posted 58 minutes ago #
sbob - Member

minley1 - Member

I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?

took some anadin extra

Ah, more money than sense. As you were.

Posted 53 minutes ago #
whitestone - Member

Alarm systems going off in that manner is just a voltage being induced by the radio signal. One place I worked at would keep triggering at odd times. Fortunately the police were always on hand - it was their radio frequency that triggered it!

Posted 52 minutes ago #
richmtb - Member

e=hf

So a higher frequency has more energy.

So anyone who is struggling with 2.4 of 5Ghz from WiFi would probably spontaneously combust if they go anywhere near visible light which is 400 to 800THz.

So whatever you do don't let them switch on any lights

Posted 26 minutes ago #
bigyinn - Member

There is a degree of irony that this post immediately followed a post about Poe's law.

sbob - Member

minley1 - Member

I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?

Posted 24 minutes ago #
ninfan - Member

I suspect that this is one of those situations where a tenner on anti-radiation stickers

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quantum-Shield-Mobile-Phone-Sticker-With-Negative-Ions-Anti-Radiation-Shield/292110378899?hash=item440322a793:g:PUcAAOSwZ4dZEGpg

would be a beneficial investment, if only for domestic harmony.

Posted 21 minutes ago #
minley1 - Member

[/minley1 - Member
I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?

took some anadin extra
Ah, more money than sense. As you were. ]

The WiFi has clearly impacted my ability to form simple sentences, and spell.

I’m pretty sure that because of the higher quality packaging Anadin Extra is the only option in low level pain medication, it has to be, as it clearly states that it has Extra.

Posted 16 minutes ago #
molgrips - Member

So a higher frequency has more energy.

Ah not necessarily. A higher frequency photon has more energy. But you can have fewer photons.

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