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The Mirror gets (excuse me) a bad press, but it's largely undeserved these days from the headlines I've read. They're probably the least tabloid-y tabloid.
I can agree with that but still not "great" journalism. If I had to read a red top though the Daily Record is the best of a bad bunch by a country mile.
Banning the Express would have been better for train puns.
That's what Southern Rail have done
I had to buy a daily mail the other week *shudders*
No you didn't
The Mirror gets (excuse me) a bad press, but it's largely undeserved these days from the headlines I've read. They're probably the least tabloid-y tabloid.
No you didn't
Would you turn down the request of your terminally ill grandfather?
Not sure it is worth wasting his energy trying to convince him not to read the mail...
Could have just said they didn't have it...
Would have thought mail trains puns are on track ?
Bit before most people's time
I went to buy the Daily Mail the other week at the last minute I couldn't do it and got the Mirror instead .
Yes I did do this, it was a favour for a murder suspect in custody.
I live in a very stereotypically leafy and Tory rural Kent village, someone keeps moving all of the Daily Heils in our local Co-Op over to the bog roll shelf. Someone else keeps leaving copies of the Socialist Worker and Morning Star in the Daily Heil's newspaper rack too.
I don't know who keeps doing this, but even in the heart of anti-EU England there's an increasing backlash against the Daily Heil ever since they went all Brexity. When I find out who the mystery saboteur is, they'll be getting a few pints bought for them.
I had to buy a daily mail the other week *shudders*
Did you find a porn mag to hide it in?
I don't know who keeps doing this
One of the staff surely? 
Fabulous though.
Jeremy Corbyn's spokesman says Labour would lift Virgin's Daily Mail ban after nationalisation: "There will be no bans on the publicly owned railway."
HT @adambienkov
Sounds like JC's spokesman doesn't know the difference between "banned" and "dropped" either.
So Branson's companies are models of virtue all of a sudden? What about his 'licence to print money' comment on the rail franchises? I don't know who's worse, Virgin Group or the Mail. At least the mail are honest about their views.
So Branson's companies are models of virtue all of a sudden?
Yes, that's exactly what everyone is saying. 
What about his 'licence to print money' comment on the rail franchises?
Businessman and entrepreneur in "making money" shocker, film at 11. What about it? I don't know the quote / story to which you refer.
I don't know who's worse, Virgin Group or the Mail.
Really?
Really?
I suppose that buying the Mail is entirely discretionary, whereas it is sometimes impossible to avoid using Virgin Rail's laughable excuse of a service.
Branson the man is who is suing the NHS decides not to sell the mail on moral grounds...
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It will have the opposite effect....only people who struggle with differing opinions want things banned, sad really.
There is a certain percentage of the population who just want to live in an echo chamber and genuinely seem unable to tolerate other views...which is odd as its this lot who usually bang on about tolerance etc...
...part of that 'tolerance' is living in a world where people are free to have right wing views, however unpalatable you may find them.
...part of that 'tolerance' is living in a world where people are free to have right wing views, however unpalatable you may find them.
...just as Virgin Rail is free to decide which newspapers to sell.
Boris should know, he's the expert on that sort of thing.
Anyway. I've never read the Mail, and nor has my wife.
You seem confused deviant. Nobody is suggesting stopping people from having right wing views. Nobody is even banning the DM. It's simply that it will no longer be sold in certain locations - in the same way Cycling Weekly and The Morning Star are already "banned" in those locations. At worst it's deplatforming - the question is, do all opinions deserve a platform?
deviant » only people who struggle with differing opinions want things banned, sad really.
Good point though:
I'm happy to read the Daily Mail, I draw the line at Cycling Weekly though. Though that is over a fundamental difference of spelling.
There is a certain percentage of the population who just want to live in an echo chamber and genuinely seem unable to tolerate other views..
Luckily for them, they’ll still be able to feed their fear and hate by reading the daily mail on Virgin Trains
aracer....you seem to be confusing me with some kind of islamaphobe ukip supporter....I'm neither, I'm simply an advocate of free speech...i wholeheartedly agree with and cherish the line by a philosopher that goes along the lines of:
Although I may despise what you have to say, I would defend to the death your right to say it.
God knows we seem to have forgotten that gem of common sense these days....with someone only having to suggest that they're offended by something and the mob fixes it in their sights as the next thing that must be banned, no platformed, reported to the police etc...like I said, sad that society is now paralysed by a fear of causing offence, it has effectively stifled any meaningful debate about a vast range of topics.
It's symbolic rather than anything else
it's not even that, it's a cynical PR move (unless that's what you were implying?). This is a firm who's moral code encompasses suing the NHS for millions to get lucrative contracts. As said above Virgin sell very few DMs (I heard 1 for every 4 trains on the West Coast line) so they are axing a poorly performing product. And they are currently fighting a PR battle about having their East Coast rail franchise bailed out with millions of taxpayers' money.
It will have the opposite effect....only people who struggle with differing opinions want things banned, sad really.There is a certain percentage of the population who just want to live in an echo chamber and genuinely seem unable to tolerate other views
Sadly this is true, and why Virgin Trains think they can score moral points from dropping the DM.
Will they also block MailOnline on their Wifi?
God knows we seem to have forgotten that gem of common sense these days
Although I may despise what you have to say, I would defend to the death your right to say it.
You know, I don't think I'd defend, to the death, deviant's right to free speech.
I'd have a right good barney with someone over it, but to the point of physical harm or even death. Not a chance.
Nobody is even banning the DM.
Not on the railways at least. Meanwhile...
I thought most Wail readers focused on the online tittle tattle so hard to see what impact this has.
Agree with the above, this is just political agry-bargy.
Virgin are no saints, maybe bandson is butt hurt he didn't get a private share of the NHS.
I'm not complaining they've chosen not to stock the daily fascist, but let's see this for what it really is, which is political wrangling of private companies interfering with what should be politicaly neutral services.
deviant - Member
Although I may despise what you have to say, I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Well did you hear, there’s a natural order.
Those most deserving will end up with the most.
That the cream cannot help but always rise up to the top,
Well I say: Shit floats.
If you thought things had changed,
Friend you’d better think again,
Bluntly put in the fewest of words,
**** are still running the world,
**** are still running the world.
Now the working classes are obsolete,
They are surplus to societies needs,
So let ‘em all kill each other,
And get it made overseas.
That’s the word don’t you know,
From the guys thats running the show,
Lets be perfectly clear boys and girls,
**** are still running the world,
**** are still running the world.
Oh feed your children on Cray fish and Lobster tails,
Find a school near the top of the league,
In theory I respect your right to exist,
I will kill ya if you move in next to me,
Ah it stinks, it sucks, it’s anthropologically unjust,
But the takings are up by a third, Oh So
**** are still running the world,
**** are still running the world.
Your free market is perfectly natural,
Or do you think that I’m some kind of dummy,
It’s the ideal way to order the world,
**** the morals, does it make any money?
And if you don’t like it? Then leave.
Or use your right to protest on the street,
Yeah, use your rights but don’t imagine that it’s heard, Oh no no,
**** are still running the world,
**** are still running the world
deviant » aracer....you seem to be confusing me with some kind of islamaphobe ukip supporter....I'm neither, I'm simply an advocate of free speech...
No - but you do seem to be aligning yourself with Nige on this - he made the similar mistake of suggesting it is a ban.
Once again, not selling something is not a threat to free speech. Even deplatforming is not a threat to free speech - anybody is still free to get their soapbox stand on a street corner and say whatever they like. Or to publish whatever they like (though they might find if they do that we don't have pure free speech in this country, you can be arrested for saying some things on your soap box or publishing them - which is a good thing IMHO). By not selling a publication or deplatforming, all you're doing is not participating in the distribution of somebody's opinions. Nobody has a right to make other people facilitate the spreading of their opinions.
Deplatforming (is that a word) by certain insistutions is wrong. Controversial people or opinions aren't necessarily wrong and I disagree with universities deplatforming like Berkley did to Richard Dawkins or was attempted at Cardiff Uni on Germaine Greer.
It's a race to virtue signal and to take offence at everything.
Virgin's banning is a cynical PR stunt and feigned hatred of The Mail is getting a little embarrassing too.
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