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Posted 1 day ago #
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dantsw13 and Jonv -
The book helped a lot to understand how so many things you always accepted as "facts" like losing weight quickly is bad etc are just not true.
I think you are right that it is about a full on reset to understand what hungry and normal really are. So going to give this a proper go* and wait for the results
*Excluding Friday night as it's my birthday this week and I probably will go out and get pissed enough to buy a kebab
Posted 1 day ago # -
Although I am not taking part in this one, I thought I would comment on some of the posts above about severely dropping calories or not counting exercise.
Be very careful doing this - yes you will see quick results but it will be very hard to maintain and you will get demotivated and probably quit. You need to think of this as a lifestyle change and something you can keep doing forever to keep the weight off.
If you enter your stats into MFP and tell it how much you want to lose, the app calculates the deficit needed, there is no need to drop even lower than this. You should also capture exercise (even if it is only a percentage if you feel Garmin/Strava etc over estimates). This is the fuel you body needs to survive. It also allows you some space for a few beers/pizza/curry or whatever it is that will keep you motivated and stop you from quitting.
PS - I have lost 5.5 stone (and so far kept it off) over the last 6 years using MFP, cycling and going to the gym.
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Hooli - I completely agree that a long term change is needed. That doesn’t make losing it quickly bad. It merely means you need a secondary long term strategy.
Posted 23 hours ago # -
Yes the idea is this is a 8week recalibration as such after which you move on to a more flexible long term approach to eating.
Posted 23 hours ago # -
PS - I have lost 5.5 stone (and so far kept it off) over the last 6 years using MFP, cycling and going to the gym.
I've lost over 7 stone! in the past 5 years also, 2011 is when I started recording it
Problem is I've also found 6 stone
Losing it is easy, losing it forever seems to be quite hard....
2012 = Yo-yo '13 = yo-yo '14 = yo-yo '15 = yo-yo '16 = Worst yo-yo eva!
Posted 22 hours ago # -
Tiger - what is your strategy for maintenance, or is that the problem??
Posted 22 hours ago # -
dantsw13 - That's true, from my experience that is not an easy way to do it but it could just be how my mind and body work.
Tiger - Completely agree. That didn't come across in my post but the weight I quoted is start vs now, the bit in-between isn't a straight line and I must have lost and regained the same stone about 10 times.
Good luck chaps. It is a long and hungry road but hopefully a worthwhile one
Posted 22 hours ago # -
Well that was a pretty rubbish weekend, we lost MrsMomos grandma early hours of Saturday morning and ended up having a few drinks and a takeaway in between sorting things out. Yesterday I ended up in the office until late, only just made it home in time to bath LittleMissMomo and put her to bed.
The end result is that after dropping from 108.9kg on Jan 2nd to 105.7 for the initial weigh in, I was back up to 107.7 this morning.
The lessons that I'm taking is my self control needs a little more work and I need to have some emergency healthy(ier) food with me in case I have any more late sessions in the office (which at the moment is getting more likely) to prevent me raiding the vendors after hours!
Posted 22 hours ago # -
One other comment and I'll leave you to it is check out the MFP forums if you have a few minutes. There is an awful lot of rubbish on there* but also some very good information on how your body reacts to a long term calorie deficit, muscle loss vs fat loss etc.
* You have been warned, it is bad.
Posted 22 hours ago # -
Momo - have a look at Nakd bars for emergency snacks at work. Try cup a soups too.
Hooli - I was concerned with that hence I monitored body composition quite closely. No muscle or water % drop.
Posted 21 hours ago # -
I tend to keep hummous and carrots in reserve for snacking (plus we get fruit at work). After lunch I'm on about 600 calories for the day so far and just did around 600ish on a ride at lunch. Given tomorrow is my beer and pizza night, I need to earn some credit
Posted 21 hours ago # -
For me I find the trick is not to have meals. As in the rigid formula of breakfast, lunch, tea. Just eat as and when. For example today I have not eaten yet, and probably won't till this evening. Which means I could have a pizza or bacon sandwich and still be under 1500kcals.
Not exercising tho, and my body is probably being broken by the random routine
Posted 21 hours ago # -
but doesn't that method mean you crave 'bad' food, like its not sustainable..? So for me its sugar and alcohol. I find it easier to avoid them totally. I can't have one beer, I just think about another...?
Posted 21 hours ago # -
Oddly no. But even when I do, it’s ok as you’ve usually got the excess/surplus calories to play with. But I agree there could be a risk of eating crap. But then I remember that scientist who did the Twinkie diet, so it would work, but not sustainable.
Also, to call it a method is probably giving it too much credit.
Edit: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/06/health/la-he-fitness-twinkie-diet-20101206
Posted 21 hours ago # -
dantsw13 - Member
Tiger - what is your strategy for maintenance, or is that the problem??No strategy
Hence the up and down
Really have to stop it now though
Posted 21 hours ago # -
My problem was that maintenance relied on the bike. Winter rolled in, had to go away for work for a week or so, then the snow and frigid monsoon season struck, then Xmas arrived and lo and behold, put on 3kg. Got most of it off since I dramatically changed the diet since 1st Jan.
The lesson for me is not to rely on exercise to balance out my eating as sure, I can have a pizza and a few beers if I'm riding on average an hour a day but as soon as I'm not, it's a quick slide back to 80kg and beyond.
Posted 20 hours ago # -
Bought some digital kitchen scales today to make sure I'm not just guessing with how much i am eating.
Just got to stop being an idiot and a not give up like I normally do
Posted 20 hours ago # -
The lesson for me is not to rely on exercise to balance out my eating as sure
For me it is more than that, anything more than moderate exercise leaves me feeling starving. My strategy this time is to limit the intensity and amount of exercise I do, and concentrate mainly on diet. I will do some exercise just not too much too hard.
Posted 20 hours ago # -
Bought some digital kitchen scales today to make sure I'm not just guessing with how much i am eating.
an absolutely essential piece of equipment, good work wiggles!
Posted 20 hours ago # -
For me it is more than that, anything more than moderate exercise leaves me feeling starving. My strategy this time is to limit the intensity and amount of exercise I do, and concentrate mainly on diet. I will do some exercise just not too much too hard.
Ah the thing is I like riding my bikes so I'm not exercising for weight, I'm exercising because it's fun
Posted 19 hours ago # -
I am always more successful losing weight when not heavily exercising. Cardio at any rate.
Posted 19 hours ago # -
needing to ride getting itchy, fed up with the lurgy
Posted 17 hours ago # -
Ah the thing is I like riding my bikes so I'm not exercising for weight, I'm exercising because it's fun
yep me too, but I have been steadily gaining weight for years, and doing both isn't working. I think am probably the heaviest in the group, and it is getting a struggle to get up the hills now.
I need a new approach, hopefully cutting back on the exercise for 3 to 6 months will see better progress so when i return to doing more i will benefit.
Posted 14 hours ago # -
Personally, exercising more, albeit on a turbo trainer has really improved my mood during this dark, shite, month. And it's motivated me to keep with the health eating to not undo my hard work
Posted 14 hours ago # -
Forgive me, I have sinned. Massive pizza and choc biscuit binge last night after getting home from work late. Hey ho, such is life. Food planned for today and a bit of a pedal later.
Posted 2 hours ago # -
Rob,
Hi, I tried emailing twice to join up but don’t seem to have received any confirmation email. I was using my work email and it is a big firm, so not sure if it went to spam.
Do you mind checking please? I have not been able to get access to the sheet to fill in any details.
Chris
Posted 2 hours ago # -
My birthday today so going out for lunch with my mum... This may not be so good for the 800 calories idea
Posted 1 hour ago # -
one day won't ruin the program. What ruins it is thinking that one day ruins it, so why bother tomorrow or the day after as well.......
Happy birthday, eat well but wisely if you can (most places will let you swap veggies for chips for example) and don't lose sleep.
I've got my work Christmas do tonight. Let's see if I can practise what i preach......
Posted 48 minutes ago # -
I had a thai lamb curry last night. I was exercising before thinking about it. it was good. brown rice though, 50gms. haha
Happy birthday wiggles!
Posted 43 minutes ago # -
Very good advice Jon, that has always been my downfail in the past eat one bad thing and then think "well diets ruined now" *eat everything in sight"
Yeah Just avoiding eating chips would at least be a victory
Posted 39 minutes ago # -
make that a target for today then. Swap chips for something better. Then you've got something you can succeed at, rather than 'failing' to hit an unreasonable expectation for today.
I'm aiming for no pudding personally, and if I get home drunk and wake the house up then my wife will ensure that expectation is fulfilled.
Posted 34 minutes ago #
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