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Time to wrap up. What happened?

  • Coalition MPs were all in a lather over news US President Trump could pull out of the Paris climate change agreement;
  • those who dislike the agreement were thrilled;
  • Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Australia will honour its commitment regardless of what the US decides to do;
  • there were some very entertaining climate related exchanges in a committee hearing; and
  • Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has backed the head of ASIO over comments about refugees and terrorism.

My thanks to Alex Ellinghausen and Andrew Meares for their stupendous work and to you for reading and commenting.

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Alex, Andrew and I will be back - with Parliament - on June 13. We hope to see you then. Until then, go well.

Which reminds me - I now have a video you can watch about Senator Malcolm Roberts' curious claims about climate change.

'The penis that causes climate change'

One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts attempts to rattle the experts by mentioning a hoax study claiming “penises cause climate change”.

Do you think there is a link between refugees and terrorism, Mr Joyce is asked.

"Er no, not really, no, not at all," he says.

"That's like saying they're [terrorists] all blokes. That's like saying there's a link between testicles and terrorism."

Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce is speaking on Sky News.

"If you sign on to something you see it through," he says in relation to the Paris climate agreement.

And that's it for question time.

Labor MP Anne Aly listens to Immigration Minister Peter Dutton speak during question time on Thursday.
Labor MP Anne Aly listens to Immigration Minister Peter Dutton speak during question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is asked about the Paris climate agreement.

"When Australia makes a commitment to a global agreement we follow through," he says, "and that is exactly what we are doing".

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton is gleefully referencing a story about Labor MPs' concern with the government's new citizenship test (which no one has seen yet).

"It's not every day I quote the Fairfax press," Mr Dutton says.

"But today I feel compelled."

Labor MP Anne Aly listens to Immigration Minister Peter Dutton during question time on Thursday.
Labor MP Anne Aly listens to Immigration Minister Peter Dutton during question time on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

And I tune back into question time to hear Social Services Minister Christian Porter referencing New Kids on the Block.

It's definitely the second Thursday of a sitting fortnight.

Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce with Social Services Minister Christian Porter and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull ...
Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce with Social Services Minister Christian Porter and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull during question time on Thursday. Photo: Andrew Meares

"It's in our interest to minimise the cost of adjusting in 40, 50 years' time," Senator Sinodinos says.

(He might need another biscuit soon.)

"We can't end up with a situation where we throw the baby out with the bathwater."
 

Science Minister Arthur Sinodinos and Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing on Thursday.
Science Minister Arthur Sinodinos and Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Senator Macdonald wants to know what the point of Australia remaining in the Paris agreement since our national emissions are low (compared to the rest of the world).

Dr Finkel says it's a bit like voting: "Does my vote count? No, it doesn't but if everyone took the view that their vote didn't count, then we wouldn't have a democracy."

Senator Sinodinos says the US leaving the agreement would be bad for international certainty, particularly for investors.

"We make a lot of agreements," Senator Sinodinos says.

Senator Ian Macdonald questions Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing at Parliament House in ...
Senator Ian Macdonald questions Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing at Parliament House in Canberra on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
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That's it for Senator Roberts.

Coalition senator Ian Macdonald asks what will happen if the US does pull out of the Paris climate agreement.

Dr Finkel says the US "is one country out of nearly 200, one very important country".

"That's a blow to the accord, but it's not fatal."

Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during a budget estimates hearing on Thursday.
Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during a budget estimates hearing on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Senator Roberts asks where Professor Finkel gets his information on climate science from.

Dr Finkel nominates the "many respected scientists" at the CSIRO and the Bureau of Metereology.

"I don't go out actively looking for the competing opinions. I'm by nature an inquisitive, a moderately sceptical person. From my perspective I don't see any credible, competing opinions to the core suppositions of climate change."

One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts during a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra on Thursday.
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts during a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Senator Roberts says he "deliberately steers clear of the 'c' word".

(That would be 'conspiracy'.)

Senator Ian Macdonald and One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts in an estimates hearing on Thursday.
Senator Ian Macdonald and One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts in an estimates hearing on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Senator Roberts wants to ask about NASA data which he disputes.

Science Minister Arthur Sinodinos is having none of it.

"Have you raised this issue with the US administration, the FBI?" he asks.

He wants to know if Senator Roberts is suggesting "a global conspiracy of like-minded scientists, the US, the Australian governments".

One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts.
One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Senator Roberts wants to know if it's important for scientists to keep an open mind.

Yes, Dr Finkel says, "but not so open that your brain leaks out".

Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during a budget estimates hearing on Thursday.
Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during a budget estimates hearing on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen
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One Nation senator Malcolm Roberts is questioning Dr Finkel (Senator Roberts only has ten minutes so I'll just stick with this before going to question time).

"What is the first duty of a scientist?" Senator Roberts begins.

Dr Finkel says he is not sure if there is just one thing: "The pursuit of knowledge, truth....Science is a complex profession."

Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing in Canberra on Thursday.
Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel during an estimates hearing in Canberra on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Nearly question time.

"As to what the Trump administration does, that is a matter for them," Mr Frydenberg says.

Environment and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg arrives for an interview in the press gallery on Thursday.
Environment and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg arrives for an interview in the press gallery on Thursday. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

Mr Frydenberg says he does not share Craig Kelly's views.

"The Turnbull government is fully committed to the Paris agreement," Mr Frydenberg says.

He points out Australian ratified its commitment the day after Mr Trump was elected.

Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg will be sent out to calm the troops in about a quarter of an hour's time.

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